This is what I always believed to be true, so I'm onboard with this, and I've also extensively written this in Pd documentations. Currently I'm translating my portuguese tutorials to english and I'm just gonna stick to the subpatch/abstraction definition as this.

Max, please go ahead and make that Pull Request. If there's objection, it'll appear.

cheers

Em seg, 13 de ago de 2018 às 09:23, Max <abonnements@revolwear.com> escreveu:

Likewise. Is there anyone opposing?

On 13.08.2018 13:23, Matt Davey wrote:
> Totally agree with Dan on all points.
>
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 at 12:32, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com
> <mailto:danomatika@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     My 2 cents:
>
>     * "subpatch" to me refers to [pd ...] aka a patch within a patch,
>     saved within the same patch file that uses it (no object instantiation)
>
>     * "abstraction" to me refers to a patch saved to and loaded from
>     it's own file (object instantiation)
>
>     * using "subpatches and abstractions" when referring to both is the
>     is the best option, I agree that "subwindow" is problematic since
>     there multiple types of things displayed in multiple windows already
>     (ie. the audio dialog could conceptually be a subwindow as well...)
>
>     * my preference is for "subpatch" as opposed to "sub-patch"
>
>     * "canvas" is problematic as there are already two notions of canvas
>     within Pd: the Pd patch canvas and the TK drawing canvas
>
>>     On Aug 12, 2018, at 11:40 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at
>>     <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> wrote:
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>>     I see, then maybe we are better off without umbrella term and just
>>     refer
>>     to subpatches and abstractions as "subpatches and abstractions".
>>
>>     m.
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