Hi,
I've used Krut Computer Recorder to record Java 3D applications, and I think the results are not so bad. Maybe you can use it to get a video of your GEM application too.

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: converting gem patches to video files (Nikola Jeremic)
2. Re: converting gem patches to video files
(paris@parisgraphics.com)
3. puredata evolution (victor )
4. signal weighted median filtering (Charles Henry)
5. Re: puredata evolution (Charles Henry)
6. Re: signal weighted median filtering (Andy Farnell)
7. Re: puredata evolution (Kyle Klipowicz)
8. Re: puredata evolution (Hans-Christoph Steiner)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 11:33:07 +0200
From: "Nikola Jeremic"
Subject: Re: [PD] converting gem patches to video files
To: "Claude Heiland-Allen"
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
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you can also try some of the screencast programs, i was using them some of
them. You need one that can grab opengl window (on mac x-snap pro and on win
camstudio) and a POWERFULL macine :). 4 me that was the fastest way and i
god quite nice results. check on wiki for more info.

peace
n.

On 5/25/07, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
>
> punchik punchik wrote:
> > hi, is there any way to record a gem patch as video?
> > mov or avi?
> >
> > thanx
>
> pix_snap and pix_record (but I've never done this, so I might be mistaken)
>
> I use a hardware DVD recorder to record the tv-out from my laptop, then
> transfer to a computer and edit/encode to AVI with avidemux2.
>
>
>
> Claude
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Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 08:57:25 -0700
From: paris@parisgraphics.com
Subject: Re: [PD] converting gem patches to video files
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i've used a few methods with various degrees of success:

1. screen recording as Nikola mentions. on linux there's xvidcap and
others that i can't think of at the moment. running this as well as
your application can end up making the machine run pretty slow - at
least for me.

2. pix_write
to save a series of stills that you can animate.
this method works better for me than (1).
plus gives me the added bonus of deleting frames that i don't want.
e.g. when doing some video feedback stuff, i get some flicker - blank
frames.
i can easily sort all the saved files and delete these (significantly
smaller file size than "good" frames).

3. similar to what Claude does - run svideo out of one machine and then
record it onto another machine.
since the machine creating the visuals doesn't have to also record or
write images to disk, i've had the best results with this for cases
where the patch is most demanding - e.g. patches doing both audio and
video processing.

best,
p

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [PD] converting gem patches to video files
> From: "Nikola Jeremic"
> Date: Fri, May 25, 2007 5:33 am
> To: "Claude Heiland-Allen"
> Cc: pd-list@iem.at
>
> you can also try some of the screencast programs, i was using them
> some of
> them. You need one that can grab opengl window (on mac x-snap pro and
> on win
> camstudio) and a POWERFULL macine :). 4 me that was the fastest way and i
> god quite nice results. check on wiki for more info.
>
> peace
> n.
>
> On 5/25/07, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
> >
> > punchik punchik wrote:
> > > hi, is there any way to record a gem patch as video?
> > > mov or avi?
> > >
> > > thanx
> >
> > pix_snap and pix_record (but I've never done this, so I might be
> mistaken)
> >
> > I use a hardware DVD recorder to record the tv-out from my laptop, then
> > transfer to a computer and edit/encode to AVI with avidemux2.
> >
> >
> >
> > Claude
> >
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:28:05 +0200
From: "victor "
Subject: [PD] puredata evolution
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Hi, I love pd :) but after many years from its creation, why some times it
seem a casd's castle?
http://teacher.scholastic.com/max/castle/img/cardcast.jpg

After to read in that list the tipical question "pix_video don't work". I'm
thinking about pd

do you think that gem is a mature proyect for video creation? why not? why
the evolution is slow? or simply why there are not a object for to save
pretty videos in open formats? (same asks for pdp).

Maybe the extended version is a valuable effort for to have a open platform
for creatives. Then which is the sense of desiredata? (
https://devel.goto10.org/desiredata)

summarizing: Which is the next future of PureData

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Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 14:01:21 -0500
From: "Charles Henry"
Subject: [PD] signal weighted median filtering
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Hi, list,
I've created an abstraction for performing weighted median filtering
on a signal using 5 coefficients. It's a real cpu hog. It uses
heavily the expr, expr~ and fexpr~ externals, which leads to some
redundant calculations on each sample.
The test patch enclosed shows how effective this can be for removing
impulsive noises from a signal (like the pops on a record).

Chuck
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 13:53:05 -0500
From: "Charles Henry"
Subject: Re: [PD] puredata evolution
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> summarizing: Which is the next future of PureData

or How about this question: what does the roadmap look like for Pd v 1.0?



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 10:02:53 +0100
From: Andy Farnell
Subject: Re: [PD] signal weighted median filtering
To: "Charles Henry"
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
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Nice. The graph says it all, it really snuffs out those spikes.
Yeah, and it eats way too much CPU, but I enjoy the instructional
value of seeing this filter done as signal expressions.

Andy

On Fri, 25 May 2007 14:01:21 -0500
"Charles Henry" wrote:

> Hi, list,
> I've created an abstraction for performing weighted median filtering
> on a signal using 5 coefficients. It's a real cpu hog. It uses
> heavily the expr, expr~ and fexpr~ externals, which leads to some
> redundant calculations on each sample.
> The test patch enclosed shows how effective this can be for removing
> impulsive noises from a signal (like the pops on a record).
>
> Chuck
>


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:53:24 -0500
From: "Kyle Klipowicz"
Subject: Re: [PD] puredata evolution
To: "Charles Henry"
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
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Pd 1.0 in 2010 maybe? Heh.

~K

On 5/25/07, Charles Henry wrote:
> > summarizing: Which is the next future of PureData
>
> or How about this question: what does the roadmap look like for Pd v 1.0?
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 17:58:11 -0400
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner
Subject: Re: [PD] puredata evolution
To: victor
Cc: PD-list@iem.at
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On May 25, 2007, at 9:28 AM, victor wrote:

> Hi, I love pd :) but after many years from its creation, why some
> times it seem a casd's castle?
> http://teacher.scholastic.com/max/castle/img/cardcast.jpg
>
> After to read in that list the tipical question "pix_video don't
> work". I'm thinking about pd
>
> do you think that gem is a mature proyect for video creation? why
> not? why the evolution is slow? or simply why there are not a
> object for to save pretty videos in open formats? (same asks for pdp).

A lot of the time, the code is there, it's just hard to package it
into something that works for everyone. There are a lot of patent
issues with the various codecs, and some of the libs can be difficult
to work with.

> Maybe the extended version is a valuable effort for to have a open
> platform for creatives.

My main goal with the Pd-extended was to make a common platform to
distribute all of the great code for Pd. By having a standard
platform across all OS's, it means that we can all spend less time
setting up Pd and wrestling with different configurations. It is not
meant to be a branch at all. For example, it would be pretty
straightforward to make a desiredata-extended, which would have all
the same libs, but installed into desiredata instead of Pd. The
bottom line is that Pd-extended is a distro, not a branch/fork. Like
Debian is a distro of many packages, and you can use many different
kernels with that distro (Linux, FreeBSD, HURD).


> Then which is the sense of desiredata? (https://devel.goto10.org/
> desiredata)

AFAICT, desiredata is focusing on the editing environment rather than
new libraries or functionality to the language. They have a bunch of
interesting ideas that could make patching much more fluid and
satisfying.

.hc

>
> summarizing: Which is the next future of PureData
>
> thanks
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