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If someone wants to write patches that work on vanilla anywhere, then there is a point. If people are already using Pd-extended or Debian then I honestly don't see the point, arraysize is already there, like many other externals.

For me, apt-get install pd-arraysize is far easier than trying to remember that [expr] trick.  And thankfully we can write externals, so we can have choice. :-)

.hc

On 09/27/2012 03:00 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> That feature comes at the expense of compatibility, which
> normally wouldn't be an issue _except_ that Pd
> Vanilla already has the same functionality. So let's encourage
> use of the more compatible way using [expr], which is
> clearly documented and supports the _exact_ same features
> as arraysize.
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
>
>
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> IMHO, arraysize is very useful because it has a memorable name. "I
> > need to find the size of an array... oh, [arraysize]".
>
> .hc
>
> On 09/27/2012 02:13 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> >>> Please change the description for the package
> >>> "pd-arraysize"
> >>>
> >>> "This object is deprecated. Use [expr size("array-name")]
> >>> which works out of the box for Pd Extended, Pd Vanilla,
> >>> and Pd-l2ork."
> >>>
> >>> -Jonathan
> >>>
> >>>
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