hey list

But now, we can just farm out that sort of stuff to other programs.

ideas worth spreading???

Compared to the amount of effort it takes to learn them, and how effective

they actually are, data structures are just too un-economical.

i can NOT second that, even for a non-programmer like myself.

in nearly 15 years of their existence, i think i can still count on both

hands how many good implementations of them i have seen.

in nearly 101 years of Luigi Russolos L'Arte dei Rumori existence ... maybe vi need to wait another 85???

(yes coffee and beer, you can drink both)

look, i LOVE pd and couldn't live without it....

i second THAT "emotion"! :)

anybody tried to implement complex fractals in data structures?

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IOhannes,

that's kinda what i thought....

but really, come on...pd's interface is it's weakest point. When miller

started working on the data structures, libpd and all that didn't even

exist. But now, we can just farm out that sort of stuff to other programs.

Compared to the amount of effort it takes to learn them, and how effective

they actually are, data structures are just too un-economical.

in nearly 15 years of their existence, i think i can still count on both

hands how many good implementations of them i have seen.

look, i LOVE pd and couldn't live without it....but it just seems like any

minute spent on data structures is a minute that could be way better spent

on other stuff.