Le Vendredi 24 Mars 2006 11:15, Miller Puckette a écrit :
I think in general, the best place to look is foundations with local roots. I've had the idea for a while to get the Langlois Foundation to underwrite a pd-conf in Montreal. I don't know of any locally-focussed foundations in New York but I bet they exist... (something like Rockefeller probably wouldn't jump for this since they don't focus on local events around New York as far as I know.)
The logical location for the conference in Canada would be Montreal. Artengine would sponsor some events over there. I have had informal contacts with Concordia University and two artist-run centres who were supportive.
The online donations idea is good and not that hard to set up. Artengine has charitable status and as such, our books are audited. Donations from Canada could certainly be channeled by us. As Hans-Christoph points out, the income from that source can be limited so applying to Foundations and public granting bodies is going to be necessary.
This requires time as the organizations need to write the pd~conf in their grant request. I believe that the Daniel Langlois Foundation accepts funding requests year-long from organizations but the next funding round for at the Canada Council is October 2006 so holding the pd~conf in 2007 would be necessary. It may be a while to wait but that way we can expect to fund the travel for many participants as well as put on shows throughout the city (Graz and the IEM have set high standards :-).
Cheers,
Alexandre
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 08:10:16AM -0800, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, geiger wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Its been a while since pd~conf and I think we are long overdue for another. I have recently started a job at Polytechnic University in downtown Brooklyn (http://poly.edu I work at http://idmi.poly.edu ), and I can host conferences here for free, and the dorms are available for US$35/night when the students are out of session. This place has a lot to offer in terms of facilities: a 350 seat auditorium, lecture halls, a big plaza for art projects, a 9-screen/9-computer hall with multi-channel sound where we are currently developing software so that it can be used as one OpenGL space, one video screen, or a 9- screen laptop jam.
The problem in the U.S. is that there are very few grants for this kind of thing, so it would probably be hard to get grants to fund everyone's travel and hotels like the IEM folks did so amazingly. The standard way that conferences fund themselves in the U.S. is by charging a conference fee. Since this is about free software, it would be nice to have the conference free too.
Let's start the process now and get some ideas flowing, and maybe we can come up with something.
Hi,
Great initiative, my proposal for funding is the one I already expressed in our discussion about donations. We get a bank account and a "Donate" button on the puredata web site.
Maybe we should calculate the costs for such an event in advance and when we are about to reach the amount, we organize a conference.
Although this model didn't find much appreciation back then, I still think it is a fair use of the collected money on a project where so many individuals are involved.
I know that you didn't like this idea, but I have no experience in fund raising, so collecting donations is the only thing that comes to my mind right now.
I think this is a great idea, we just need to discuss how to handle it. That's the tricky part. This could make it easy, we could just say that all funds donated to Pd go to running the pd~conf. Then we don't have to figure out how to make more fine grained decisions as a group (tough thing to do...). Then it doesn't really matter where the group is based.
So its sounds like a Verein is very easy to start in Austria and Germany, does it provide tax-free status? The next question is whether we can use tax-free money from the EU to fund a conference outside of the EU without paying taxes.
Another approach is to have who ever is planning the next pd~conf take control of the donations under the guise of whatever organization that they are working for. I know Alexandre has talked about hosting pd~conf at artengine in Ottawa, CA. They have non-profit status, so they could accept donations tax-free (AFAIK). As for Brooklyn, I could do it as part of Polytechnic University if that gives us tax-free status, or another arts org that am affiliated with in NYC (there are a couple).
Then the last thing is, I don't think we are really going to get so many donations. I've had my donate button up for years and I think I've received around US$250 in total.
.hc
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