hi folks just a quick clarification on cyclone's [coll] object that i'm using in PD. i named mine [coll list] and i've loaded a text file into it. however, it seems like updates to the [coll list] object only seem to carry through all the coll objects in the active patch window. if you have a 'pd' subpatcher or you're in a subpatcher the changes don't seem to be propagating to the other subpatchers. if i load up the same text files in those subpatchers, they act like separate instances and are independent. as i recall the [coll] object in MaxMSP worked globally in all patch and subpatch windows as long as the name was the same.