yes, the pdmtl-abs need to get better promoted. they are not widely known outside the pd montreal community. and afaik there is not reason not to include them in pd-extended. they have a fancy patching style, but ok... is pdmtl in a path that is searched by pd by default? marius (yaotm*).
btw: it's exactly to goal of pdmtl-abs to collect abstractions, that could be of general use. if you miss a counter class with a certain behaviour, please feel free to add it (or ask someone to implement it for you).
roman
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