This is not always entirely useless if you ask me.

I can imagine that in pd-extended for example, the first time you start it, you would be asked what externals you want loaded (I guess now it's 'all' by default?) and what sound driver, how many channels etc...

A new user is not necessarily aware of all those settings, so having them presented automatically the first time can be a good thing.

Maybe even the 'test audio and midi' patch could open automatically after that, so the new user can verify that his sound is working before trying anything else...?

Of course this should only be shown at the first run, or have a check box to un-check 'show this at startup'...

gr,

Tim

2010/12/6 András Murányi <muranyia@gmail.com>

2010/12/6 Mathieu Bouchard <matju@artengine.ca>

On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, András Murányi wrote:

Annoying for me, even if i'm interested in the software. But that's just me. For those who find it useful, this could be developed into something that can really be started up when pd starts - sounds like a plugin? :op One way is to rewrite it as a plugin, another is to make a plugin which loads the patch at startup. Either way i'd be happy to help you.

Btw, it doesn't have to be a gui plugin, it can also be a regular -lib that doesn't contain any externals, but instead, just a single call to canvas_open or similar.

Yea, but i cannot help Jonathan with that. What "makes it make sense" however, is that it starts up automatically. One can also modify his/her pd icon so that it starts up with the patch.

And btw, lots of people use the word Ťpluginť to mean library or external,

Honestly, you are to first to tell me this, but i'm not so old and haven't really been around the world so much.

so, if by plugin, you mean gui plugin, you ought to be more specific.

Sir I will be Sir. Let me add that i'd reserve the name 'plugin' for things that are pluggable into an API and that is something me and Hans may have a different view about - for him (afaiu) it's almost an API, for me hardly an API. Nevertheless, it's cool. (I won't define 'cool' for you :o)

Andras

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