There's the cyclone one, but there is also a [kalashnikov] object (from "ext13") which I like cause it's a bit more convenient to sweep arrays (cause the numbered bangs go from 0 to n-1, unlike the cyclone version). Though [kalashnikov] can also be instantiated as [uzi], I can't create it as [uzi] unless I have a [kalashnikov] created first. Seems there's a bug problem with its alias. 

Weirdly enough, though I can create it as [ext13/kalashnikov], I can't do it as [ext13/uzi] even after I first created the object as "kalashnikov". 

I wonder if there was any way of using it as [uzi] or [ext13/uzi] without bothering how to spell kalashnikov.

Moreover, the cyclone version has upper case U... we were discussing here if we could make a lower case alias, but it'd get in conflict with other [uzi] objects around... one way around would be to be able to load [ext13/uzi]...

And there's another [uzi] from "purepd", which is an abstraction and also a clone of max that is quite redundanct and probably was best to just delete it from the package.

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