Totally agree with Dan on all points.  

On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 at 12:32, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
My 2 cents:

* "subpatch" to me refers to [pd ...] aka a patch within a patch, saved within the same patch file that uses it (no object instantiation)

* "abstraction" to me refers to a patch saved to and loaded from it's own file (object instantiation)

* using "subpatches and abstractions" when referring to both is the is the best option, I agree that "subwindow" is problematic since there multiple types of things displayed in multiple windows already (ie. the audio dialog could conceptually be a subwindow as well...)

* my preference is for "subpatch" as opposed to "sub-patch"

* "canvas" is problematic as there are already two notions of canvas within Pd: the Pd patch canvas and the TK drawing canvas

On Aug 12, 2018, at 11:40 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:

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I see, then maybe we are better off without umbrella term and just refer 
to subpatches and abstractions as "subpatches and abstractions".

m.


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