Interesting thought, perhaps if the built in [line~] had a very low argument attached, like 3 or 4 milliseconds. Although line is usually a creative decision. Do I want the frequency to change instantly or to gently slide between frequencies over the next minute or so? Perhaps a built in [line~ 60000] wouldn't be such a good idea.
 
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:10:28 +0100
> From: zmoelnig@iem.at
> To: jbturgid@hotmail.com
> CC: jancsika@yahoo.com; pd-list@iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] float to a signal inlet
>
> On 2010-02-03 08:20, Andrew Faraday wrote:
> >
> > I think it's an historical thing, most audio inlets which might benefit from a signal level message have the [sig~] built in. I understand this might not always have been the case so some more old school PDers use it, and they remain in the help files.
> > I don't know if there's some minor technical benefit to using the [sig~] object, but I've still to find a need for it
> >
> i don't think there is any technical benefit.
> the benefit is mainly in the non-ambiguity it offers.
> a message and a signal are 2 fundamentally different things, so an
> object could well accept both signals and float-messages on a single
> inlet (e.g [z~] comes to my mind).
> in order to allow this, you need a converter, which [sig~] is (and
> [line~] as well; but [sig~] probably _does_ have performance benefits
> with regard to [line~].
>
>
> that was back then in the golden age of Pd (right after you could hit
> "delete" in the [f] box two(!) times without getting a crash)
>
> since the conversion between numbers and floats seems to be an often
> demanded feature, it was eventually introduced as a built-in (breaking
> objects like [z~]). sigh.
>
> in order to create a gatom controlled sinewave, you had to do
>
> |
> [sig~]
> I
> [phasor~]
> I
> [cos~]
> I
>
>
> fgmasdr
> IOhannes
>
> PS: as we all now, the above patch (and it's modern equivalent [osc~]
> will produce ugly clicks when used like this; isn't it time to request a
> built-in [line~]?
>

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