You have a point, if you are init'ing to zero; otherwise, it's easy to see that a Number2 box is init'd when you open the patch, because it has a non-zero value in it.

But yeah, it's a little kludgey (especially the "init"/"no init" button: is it status, or what *will* happen when you press it -- hint, it's the latter, like most buttons). I wouldn't recommend it for use with all those Pd nuclear weapon-control patches that are out there.


Phil


On 4/14/14, 12:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

On 04/14/2014 02:03 PM, Phil Stone wrote:

Or use the "Number2" number box, and set its "init" attribute in properties. It will then init itself with the last value that was in the box at the time the parent patch was saved.

I try to avoid the iemgui "init" method because it isn't represented in the Pd diagram.

I'd rather do this:

[loadbang]

[42(
|
[numbox]

Then you can see if you made a mistake.  For example, I forgot to connect [loadbang] to [42(.  I can quickly scan all other places where I use [loadbang] to see if I made a similar error.

But if you use the "init" method, you must right-click and choose "Properties" on every single numbox to do error checking.  The time wasted isn't worth whatever it is you think you save by using "init".

Digression-- consider a Properties dialog with the following button:
[don't fire nukes]

Do you press it or not?

-Jonathan