Le 12/04/2014 08:45, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :
change the [fexpr~] to something like 
> [fexpr~ $x[0] + ($f2 * $y[-1]) + ($f3 * $y[-2])]

f*ck, I'll be damned, now my patch that implements [bp~] with [fexpr~] seems to work, it's attached. Thanks!

thanks for the share, when I tried to implement filters with expr and biquad I haven't been able to get it working fully (some clics appeared when changing frequency)... Your implementation works very well in both cases, "chapeau bas"


> it's pretty easy to see that from the code you quoted

I can't really see it from the code itself. And, well, remember I mentioned about the biquad code? 

    {
        t_sample output =  *in++ + fb1 * last + fb2 * prev;
        if (PD_BIGORSMALL(output))
            output = 0; 
        *out++ = ff1 * output + ff2 * last + ff3 * prev;
        prev = last;
        last = output;
    }

Well, I made a silly confusion mistake and thought the first line was feedforward  (and then equivalent to the bp~). But still, it could be it for all I can tell. How can you actually see wether is feedback or not?

Anyway, the patch works and I can also make it on biquad, it's all attached.

> after all it's a resonating filter and therefore needs a feedback path.

I wouldn't know about that, but that's how you convinced me you knew what you were talking about :) 

Thanks again


2014-04-11 16:46 GMT-03:00 volker böhm <vboehm@gmx.ch>:

On 11.04.2014, at 16:48, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:

> ""last" and "prev" are the last two _output_ samples.
> i don't know fexpr~ very well, but it looks like you try to access the last _input_ samples."
>
> In [fexpr~] you can access input samples with $x variables and output samples with $y. So you're correct. I'm going for the input samples.
>
> But I did it because I believe "last" and "prev" in this formula are in fact about input samples.


no, and it's pretty easy to see that from the code you quoted:

> > t_sample output = *in++ + coef1 * last + coef2 * prev;
> >
> >         *out++ = gain * output;
> >
> >         prev = last;
> >
> >         last = output;


after all it's a resonating filter and therefore needs a feedback path.
so it somehow has to take outgoing samples back in.


> So I feel pretty strong about getting this [fexpr~] right. Is there anything I did not take into consideration?

yes, calculate coef1, coef2 and gain by using the formulas from the code,
change the [fexpr~] to something like [ fexpr~ $x[0] + ($f2 * $y[-1]) + ($f3 * $y[-2]) ],
(where $f2 and $f3 would be coef1 and coef2 resp.)
apply the gain factor afterwards,
and you are done.

vb






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