I guess, you moved those objects into the area on top of the patch's top border once in the past, right? (If you right-click a slider, the menu then is also misplaced, yes?) Then Pd gets the coordinates wrong
thanks for the reply..this part definitely helped me figure it out. you can fix the offset by selecting all..and sliding into wherever the patch decided to scroll the view to upon opening (proably 0,0)...