Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Ideally, having the whole package doesn't get in the way of newbies
starting out with the basics. If it does, that should be fixed.
Once it is installed, then newbies can start to explore thru all the
examples after the workshop and see where it leads them. That's a
key part of my philosophy here: enabling the spirit of play and
exploration.
I think, basically we aren't that far away from each other: The large number of examples in pd-extended of course is like a collection of texts for the students to study and learn from.
And of course in my workshops, I do use pd-extended, let alone because it's the only available collection of externals. (I still would like to have it a bit more customizable instead of being so monolithic, and I believe the help-files are too "chatty", but that's another story.)
But my main point is this: You can learn what [route] means, you can learn how [list prepend] works. But you only learn how to "speak" Pd as soon as you understand what this means:
"something" [0
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[list prepend 2]
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[route 0 1 2 3]
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With pd-extended it's tempting to just use [demux 4] instead but then you wouldn't have gained a deeper understanding of the language, you would only know another word.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__