shouldn't have singled anyone out like that...my apologies it's just this whole nonesense is getting to me after the x number of days it has lasted and gone nowhere.
just noticed...a bouchard flaming an american for his peoples Genocide? Where were your ancestors when the french starved the iroquois into peace in new france man?
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From: eric labelle <eric.a.labelle@gmail.com>
Date: 10 oct. 2007 18:50
Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] Re: about sexism is BORING
To: " bigswift@cox.net" < bigswift@cox.net>
this whole facking thread is boring...the american bashing is the only thing keeping me on a list that would tolerate such flagrant abuse of people's time and bandwidth. Wow to hear them go at it they seem to take themselves seriously which is great...hack a bit of software and hold the key!! Hackers unite right?2007/10/10, bigswift@cox.net < bigswift@cox.net>:wow, only a few pages before the inevitable usa bashing.
BORING.
last i checked the primary developer of pd was an american, yes?
---- marius schebella < marius.schebella@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>
> >> Americans today make ironic references to the "Axis of Evil" and the
> >> "war on terror" and "homeland security" all the time. It doesn't mean
> >> they buy it, even if the media makes it seem that way.
> >
> > Yeah but why do they still vote for one of the two big parties?
>
> why? I think because USamericans are fearful people. they are fearful,
> because they never learned to talk about their problematic history.
> genocide and slavery. they just inherit the guilty consciousness
> unprocessed from generation to generation. therefor they only feel safe,
> when they are protected by a big brother. they live with the idea of the
> survival of the fittest (make the rich richer). they never gave black
> people compensation for their exploitation (nor any other group). as a
> matter of fact this is not only US history, but western history in
> general, but european countries experienced worldwar II and I think they
> changed their way on communal thinking about racism and so on. there was
> some shift in common notion and also the wish to keep this notion alive.
> USamericans subconsciously still fear revenge. and even worse, some of
> them even think it is a good idea to have a small, rich, educated
> leading elite that controls the big majority of people. they propose a
> free market, which I see rather as a free slave market, because
> preconditions are not fair at all for all people. they try to oppress
> every effort of union building and their voting system is a "the winner
> takes it all". in europe it took green parties more than 20 years to
> make it into gouvernments. in the US this is not possible, because with
> anything less than 50% you are nothing.
> and of course the US has a media that is owned by a handful of people,
> and an education system including universities that aligns itself more
> to the needs of companies and corporations than to the values of life.
> that's why "they" still vote for one of the two big parties.
> with the fall of the dollar, the raise of china, some bank crashs, more
> and more unemployed people, no health care, no social security I think
> people will start to vote differently within the the next 10-20 years.
> marius.
>
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