Miller Puckette mpuckett@man104-1.ucsd.edu wrote:
Good idea... there could be some new "frame" object, which, if you had one in a patcher, would make the parent morph into a panel containing whatever was in the frame. This would make it easy to throw comments around too.
I like the frame idea. While in my earlier GOP patches, I fiddled a long time to arrange everything so that it displays usefully, I now just put a canvas object inside the GOP patch, then arrange everything on top of that and put the logic in a single pd-subpatch. Then I resize the GOP in the parent to fit the canvas' size.
Now with your proposed frame object, the frame would take the place of the canvas-object, resizing wouldn't be necessary and I would not need that subpatch with inlets/outlets anymore. Great idea.
On a related topic: I never quite managed to use the data structure graphical objects combined with GOP correctly in a pd-subpatch. As soon as I turn on graph-on-parent in a data structure display subpatch, the resulting grey box on the parent gets really big, I mean it gets *huge* and cannot be resized. Does anyone here know what I'm doing wrong?? Or do data structures don't play well with see-through GOPs?
(sorry for the long lines, I'm forced to use my provider's netmail software currently, that's also why I cannot send an example patch)
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ___footils.org_