I agree that would be great.
Incidentally, have you considered using canvases to draw your envelope?
 

I appreciate recently added datastructs new features.

however I think they still miss a big functionality:
often, to graphically represent a structure of data, are needed various
type of calculations; it is pretty unuseful i.e. draw a polygon with all
coordinates referred to 0,0 (object's center).

in order to paint a simple adsr struct, in addition to the template, I
have to create a "data-controller", which prepares *ALL* points of the
adsr-graph (e.g.: x1,y1,x2,y2,....), *NOT* only the a,d,s,r.

i guess this feature has been requested many times, but, wouldn't be
better have the ability of making additions,subtractions,etc directly
inside the drawpolygon declaration?

in that case, plotting that adsr line it's just:
[drawpolygon 0 900 0 0 a 100 (a+d) s (a+d+100) s (a+d+100+r) 0]

what pd developers says about this?

--
ciao
Federico



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:34:51 +0000 (GMT)
From: Ed Kelly < morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [PD] laptop linux
To: Tim Blechmann <TimBlechmann@gmx.net>, fbar@footils.org,     PD List
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Hi Tim, Hi Frank, Hi list,

Well, I know graphics acceleration is done outside of the CPU. That's what I meant. I bought an Acer Aspire 1691 WLMi about 2 1/2 weeks ago, my first laptop (and considering my paycheck, my last for a long, long while). I tried for 2 weeks to get Linux working with the 1280x800 display to no avail, and to get pidip working. Then I discovered a few things.

All you guys are probably using better distros than me. I'm giving up on Fedora as of now, but I saw success stories on some of the Linux Laptop sites, so I decided to give it a go. But, alas, my graphics chips is not the Radeon x700 promised on the website, not even the x600 I saw in some postings. It is an Intel i915 shared-memory chip with no accelleration. Intel's driver did not work at all, so I was stuck with VESA at 1024x768. Pidip never worked even though it compiled (with ffmpeg cvs from the 7th of July 2004 by the way - I tried 6 dates...), but from searching the list it looks like it would never work anyway - xvinfo reports no display adaptors found.

And the performance - I get 75% CPU usage for something I have seen take 48% on a 2.4GHz P4. I have read something on the net about using ICC (Intel's version of gcc) rather than the standard one. Is this what you do?

I may be doing something stupid, or just ignorant, but you caught me just as I am about to sell this thing on ebay (the shop have refused to take it back) and buy another laptop. The pidip is the main reason, because even if I can get the proc up to speed, I want to do live video.

Any Ideas? PS the list archive search engine reports no results for the search string 'pd' - maybe it's not working - I'll email Johannes.

On the edge,
Ed



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:42:34 +0100
From: Yves Degoyon <ydegoyon@free.fr>
Subject: Re: [PD] max msp vs pd
To: Frank Barknecht <fbar@footils.org>
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Frank Barknecht wrote:

>Hallo,
>Pat Pagano hat gesagt: // Pat Pagano wrote:
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>
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>>>please, switch to linux..
>>>
>>>
>>Sure, which flavor do you suggest sevy?
>>
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>
>Yves probably will suggest Gentoo or Linux from Scratch, but for
>starters Ubuntu is quite comfortable, though AGNULA/Demudi has better
>audio support (like the sound server set to off by default etc.)
>
>Ciao
>
>
i actually use a Fedora Core 3 ( a bit modified ),
cause i'm lazy...

but i've seen a very good distribution lately
that includes pd, it'argentinian and focused on music softwares :

MUSIX : http://www.musix.org.ar/

it even works, ardour, jack and all,
so, respekt !!

sevy



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