I'm voting for a new [scale] and [scale~] object in cyclone, the second is missing completely in extended, the first is around, but in different versions, like [maxlib/scale], which has a log option, and is actually buggy, and the [expr_scale], which is just an expr abstraction. Seems like very simple externals to make and I could go ahead and code them. I think they'd be really useful. For example, [scale~] would be essential to adjust the amplitude range from LFOs to control your patches. the [scale] would be good for adjusting MIDI input.

cheers



2015-06-05 16:21 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com>:
> The concept of hot and cold inlets appears
> to apply to messages, not signals

Surely, it's not that what confused me. Actually Max did confuse me I guess, I thought I found a different behavior in [sah~] over there. But I actually hadn't understood how it worked. Sorry... it all makes sense now and [sah~] is indeed working in the same way!

Anyway, like I asked before, I can't find that list of bugs you were working on, where is it?

Did you see what I mentioned about [cycle~]?

Now, since the maintenance of Extended seems to be dead, I guess the point of updating cyclone is to make it available for download. I've always had the idea it was available for download somewhere, but it isn't. There's the download version from the package that was out in 0.42 extended in puredata.info and that's it. 

So, where's that page with the bug list that you were working on? I'd like to check it out. 

And when do you think we could have it for download in the puredata.info site (or somewhere else as well)? 

Can I get the package as it is now and test it?

thanks

2015-06-05 3:29 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan@xs4all.nl>:
Hi Alexandre,

Sorry, I had missed your message, most active Pd-time had gone into
helping to improve the build system for cyclone and pd-externals in
general.

The concept of hot and cold inlets appears to apply to messages, not
signals. Sah~ appears to work as described in the Max5 documentation.
I'll improve the help-patch.

Consider it a good thing Pd can confuse you. It would get boring if it
didn't :-).

Greetings,

Fred Jan


On 2015-06-05 03:42 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> please do not consider my previous message, I clearly had no idea what I
> was talking about and was just really confused :) sorry
>
> 2015-05-26 18:12 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com
> <mailto:porres@gmail.com>>:
>
>     By the way, [sah~] in Pd has the inlets switched. In max, the left
>     one is supposed to trigger the sample and hold, unlike [samphold~]
>     in Pd. But [sah~] is just like [samphold~]. In order for it to be a
>     proper clone of max, that'd need to be corrected, not sure if it
>     happened already.
>
>     2015-05-24 23:18 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com
>     <mailto:porres@gmail.com>>:
>
>         for instance, it says "Symbol argument sets name of table to
>         play from. Additional int argument after that sets sample offset
>         into the table (default 0)"
>
>         well, I put an int argument after that, and it doesn't really
>         work at all!
>
>         2015-05-24 23:05 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres
>         <porres@gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>>:
>
>             hi fred, how's it going? I was checking [cycle~] and it
>             seems it's not behaving much closely like in max, have you
>             checked that? I'm saying more about its behaviour as a
>             wavetable, where it can offsett the table and everything.
>
>             I can't find that list of bugs you were working on, where is
>             it? How is it anyway?
>
>             thanks
>             cheers
>
>             2015-01-23 14:25 GMT-02:00 Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan@xs4all.nl
>             <mailto:fjkraan@xs4all.nl>>:
>
>                 Hi All,
>
>                 At
>                 http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/digaud/puredata/cyclone/index.html
>                 a new set of revised help-patches for the cyclone
>                 library are available. Most previous remarks are applied.
>
>                 There are now previews of the Windows binaries and
>                 MacOSX. The latter is build on MacOSX 10.5 with XCode
>                 3.14, so should have executables for PPC, i386 and
>                 i386_64. I confirmed the last two are working (10.5 and
>                 10.8).
>
>                 It remains in progress, in the task list are the fixed
>                 and remaining issues.
>
>                 Fred Jan
>
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