With the system Wish there is a little improvement : 
the setting dialogs are displayed almost correctly (in dark mode, some text is white over light gray background, which is hard to read)
and the patcher windows now have a title bar but they are still transparent.

cheers

antoine

Le lun. 13 juil. 2020 à 19:26, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu> a écrit :
Well, I did notice that there's still an included tcl/tk in MACOS (at least
in the one I have access to).  So here's an interesting possible workaround:
try going into the Pd app and overwriting this file:

   Pd-0.51-0-ppc.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd

(which is actually a copy of "Wish" from tcl/tk) with this one:

System/Volumes/Data/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish

(Perhaps the path isn't the same on your system, or perhaps this file belongs
to something that isn't installed over there, etc...)

Please let us know how it goes..

Miller

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 05:35:10PM +0200, Antoine Villeret wrote:
> Hi Miller,
>
> when I start Pd with -noprefs option, I have the same result:
> Pd's console window is rendered correctly but all other windows (including
> Settings and Browser) are fully transparent.
> Enabling 'Transparency Reduction' in Accessibility Settings doesn't help.
>
> kind regards
>
> antoine
>
> Le lun. 13 juil. 2020 ?? 06:03, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu> a ??crit :
>
> > Hi again -
> >
> > I managed to get remote access to a MACOS 11 machine -- it identifies
> > itself
> > as "Version 11.0 Beta (20A4300b)" - and I'm seeing Pd windows rendered the
> > same way I'm used to on a Mac.
> >
> > I notice on your screenshot you have loads of stuff added on - can you try
> > it
> > with all your preferences forgotten?
> >
> > thanks
> > Miller
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 12:51:48PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> > > Hi Antoine -
> > >
> > > Can you see if 0.51-0 works any better on it?  I'm trying to avoid
> > buying a
> > > new Mac as long as I can but if we get to the point that I can't make
> > builds
> > > that run on the newest MACOS I'll be forced to.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > Miller
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 01:01:29PM +0200, Antoine Villeret wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I just tried Pd 0.50-2 on my automatically updated mac under macos
> > 11.0 big
> > > > sur.
> > > > And it doesn't work.
> > > > Pd console open fine but then a new patcher looks like a transparent
> > > > rectangle :
> > > >
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ibb.co/rfz2dxW__;!!Mih3wA!T_wIvAfqIsYfP0t9G7hGFVHqCcRjkkacMJdYFdJJ_jMKVQraaSBS1Sd6mcmT$
> > > >
> > > > There is no warning nor error on the terminal or in Pd's console.
> > > > I tried the binary downloaded from puredata.info and also built it
> > myself
> > > > without more success.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone already updated to Bigsur and successfully run Pd ?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Antoine
> > >
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