OK, I hunted down some problems within the gop redrawing which should streamline things even further. That said, flatgui objects like knob are chronically broken. I also tested them in the latest version of pd-extended. Try creating one knob, then another in the same window. Now delete one and crash... Tons of problems with it on other levels as well... I am really thinking about getting rid of flatgui altogether.

On 02/22/2013 04:37 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:

One clarification now that I read your report more carefully. Mknob makes abstraction movement slower because this is the old/non-accelerated pd way of moving things. The new pd-l2ork model falls back on that when at least one object in the abstraction does not support accelerated moving. Once I get to fixing the mknob to support accelerated displace, this will be fixed. I am still surprised to hear this is taking 5 minutes, though. Is this an exaggeration or truly 5 minutes?

Also, if you are undoing objects that are non-accelerated or complex abstractions, you are running into same problems because you are moving and redrawing non-accelerated way...

Is the same slowness perceived on regular pd when moving the said abstraction?

On 02/22/2013 03:34 PM, András Murányi wrote:

So, I've played around with the last git, here are some things I've noticed:
- miXed/toxy is not in pd-l2ork and it's perfectly alrite because some kinds of [widget] work while others not.
- [flatgui/popup] is installed by default but it throws an error when clicked on: Invalid command name "pdtk_canvas_mouse".
- moving a simple GOP abstraction with a single [mknob] in it takes like 5 minutes (!) on a 2.4GHz dual core when the patch is big. It's fast however when the patch is simple. Undoing the movement is not instant but it is quick (~5sec).
- nested GOP subpatches show off their outlines and xlets.

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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A
Composition, Music Technology
Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra
Head, ICAT IMPACT Studio
Virginia Tech
Department of Music
Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240
(540) 231-6139
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
disis.music.vt.edu
l2ork.music.vt.edu
ico.bukvic.net

-- 
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A
Composition, Music Technology
Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra
Head, ICAT IMPACT Studio
Virginia Tech
Department of Music
Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240
(540) 231-6139
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
disis.music.vt.edu
l2ork.music.vt.edu
ico.bukvic.net