the multitouch xy object
https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list//2018-10/123713.html
this plus the rust app microwave which uses bevy game engine
is the only thing ive seen that actually works with multitouch laptop screen on linux , its lije even the apps like surge that have touchscreen  mode, the virtual keyboard only treats touches like a single mouse pointer thus only monophonic input.
 i guess thats a bit off subject, can start a new thread to rant about lack of multitouch input on linux , you would think there were tons of programs for playing polyphonic music and twidlin more than one control at a time in this day and age

On Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 5:40 AM Christof Ressi <info@christofressi.com> wrote:
> WHERE IS THIS CHANGELOG ENTRY TO BE FOUND?

HERE ARE THE RELEASE NOTES, WHICH INCLUDE THE MOST IMPORTANT (BUT NOT
ALL!) CHANGES: http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/x5.htm#s1

> how the hidden but essential donecanvasdialog settings / behaviour has changed.
To be clear: "donecanvasdialog" is an undocumented *private* message.
(It is sent from the GUI back to the core upon closing the canvas
property dialog.) The behavior may change anytime and it won't appear in
a changelog.

If anything, it is better to use the "coords" message instead because it
is used in Pd patch files and can be considered stable. However, there
are still pitfalls with this approach, so the only sane way is to use a
proper public message as proposed in
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/627.

> In all case, I hope this unexpected behaviour report is somewhat helpful.
Yes, it might be still interesting to know what has changed exactly
because there might be a regression. Can you come up with a minimal
reproducing example and open an issue on GitHub? Thanks!

Christof

On 30.08.2023 11:23, Pierre Alexandre Tremblay wrote:
> Oh the capital shout - I hadn’t seen that in a while :)
>
> There isn’t but I won’t blame anyone, they are a pain to write. So much love goes into software maintenance…
>
> I’m spying this:
>
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commits/master
>
>> On 30 Aug 2023, at 10:13, rolfm@dds.nl wrote:
>>
>>
>> Pierre Alexandre Tremblay schreef op 30-08-2023 9:27:
>>> Dear Miller and Christof
>>> I’m sorry to be the cause of pain - I will amend the patch now but
>>> what is strange in this one is that recoding it actually changes its
>>> behaviour.
>>> In all cases, I wish I had seen the changelog entry that would tell me
>>> how the hidden but essential donecanvasdialog settings / behaviour has
>>> changed. In all case, I hope this unexpected behaviour report is
>>> somewhat helpful.
>>
>> WHERE IS THIS CHANGELOG ENTRY TO BE FOUND?
>>
>> ROLF
>>
>>
>>> I know my desire to stay vanilla complicates things too, but again, so
>>> many combinations of hardware and oses I think might justify my
>>> self-inflicted pain
>>> p
>>>> On 29 Aug 2023, at 23:36, Christof Ressi <info@christofressi.com> wrote:
>>>> Sigh.
>>>> @Miller Can we please finally get https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/627? This PR has been sitting around for more than 4 years now. In the meantime, people kept abusing the private "donecanvasdialog" message in place of a better and officially supported alternative, and they will continue to do so...
>>>> Christof
>>>> On 30.08.2023 00:14, Pierre Alexandre Tremblay wrote:
>>>>> Ok a lot more investigations later, I have isolated the change of behaviour.
>>>>> donecanvasdialog 1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
>>>>> Which was used to reset the patcher’s sub patchers at the top left is corrupting the ability for a struct to broadcast its click through a graph. Now, can anyone on the Pd dev confirm this?
>>>>> How to reproduce:
>>>>>> https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/10854/xy-abstraction-to-get-mouse-click-and-drag-coordinates-vanilla
>>>>> In pd 0.53.2 it works
>>>>> In pd 0.54.0 it doesn’t receive the click from the #0-rectangle (so it draws and emits nothing)
>>>>> To fix it, remove top left the donecanvasdialog elements (2 of them)
>>>>> Then reinstantiate the 3 pd Subpatches on the right
>>>>> (Or you can just try the one I attach)
>>>>> It is not fixed completely yet but the click gets through now. I really wonder what has changed there…
>>>>> Any pointer (pun intended) welcome
>>>>> p
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