oh come now, i really commiserate with a
bad work situation, but i have a hard
time really sympathising with anyone
taking on work from a large arts
beurocracy. it is often the case that
you leave your passion at the door - and
i have found that there are many people
with less a commitment to creation and
creativity that fulfill these rolls far
better than artists do.

- sorry dan, its awful working somewhere
 you hate, but i'm sure there are many
 folks that could fill your shoes.

to say that there is a future making a
certain artwork is as vague as
suggesting that an invention is
commercially viable. if you *have* to
make artwork, then you probably will,
outside of economic imperative, and its
more than likely you will pay for its
existence and continued existence
thereafter.

but if you are prepared to forgo the
creative challenges and use skills in
ways that make you employable. then
there are a number of ways to do so, and
most likely there are many small
creative organisations in your area that
require someone with both creative and
technical talent - and more often than
not their application of your talents
will challenge and push you into areas
you are not currently aware.

and besides if you have the right
personality type and the essense of some
talent than there's a good chance you
will get all accesses to the inner
sanctum of 'art'. just don't hold your
breath.

all i'd like really like to say on this
topic is keep an open mind and strong
focus on quality work, you may never
support yourself financially but you
will become a stronger artist for it.

i don't usually make an effort to
respond to social agenda - hopefully
this is a rarity.

Daniel Wilcox wrote:

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM, <pd-list-request@iem.at> wrote:

   ---------- Forwarded message ----------

   From: "Jo o Pais" <jmmmpais@googlemail.com>

   To: "Adityo Pratomo" <quietdidit@gmail.com>, PDlist <Pd-list@iem.at>

   Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:27:33 +0100

   Subject: Re: [PD] life as a new media artist

   Hi,

   I suggest you keep your day job maintaing networks. it's much more well

   paid than art jobs, which means that you can work less and have more time

   for you. plus, the frustration of not being involved in art gives you

   energy to sit down and work on your things when you finally manage it. you

   don't waste those artistic thoughts somewhere else, like producing a

   concert or something.

   Unless you've already good well-known in the field, and are able to get a

   "regular" amount of paid comissions/projects done.

I an second that statement.

I'm working for Ars Electronica right now and I've basically discovered that

working in the field blows.  My energy has been wasted on boring

commercial-oriented stuff and I don't have any energy for my own work ... I

wish I was delivering chinese food again.  Plus the network admin job probably

pays far better then mine. *sigh*

   I make a living mainly as an engraver for scores (classical/modern/film

   music). it's not very well paid, but I can maintain my lifestyle for the

   time being (single guy sharing a flat with no family), and now and then buy

   equipment. although in the future I'll have a lousy pension for sure.

   Jo o Pais

       Hmm, I see. Looks like we have to have a day job right? Just curious,

       is

       there anyone have a day job in a field that has no relation with art?

       Like

       for example, I myself, I work as a network consultant. And then use my

       spare

       time to do some art stuff.

--

Dan Wilcox

danomatika

www.robotcowboy.com

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