Hi, Martin.

A first-order digital delta-sigma modulator would be a difference followed by an integrator and a quantiser in a feedback loop. The difference is between the input (multi-bit) and the output (1-bit); the integrator is a unit-gain, 1-sample feedback loop, so [rpole~ 1]. Particularly, I'm talking about a bipolar DDSM where the quantiser gives 1 for signals >= 0, -1 otherwise.

You can convert a 1-bit signal into a multi-bit one by averaging the impulses. For that, you can use a low-pass filter that would also remove the shaped noise introduced by the quantisation. The cutoff of the filter gives you the bandwidth of the resulting signal; the resolution of the coefficients of the low-pass filter determines the sample depth resolution.

I am not aware of designs where a low-pass is used before quantisation.

In PD, it would be something like this:

Cheers,

Dario

On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 19:35, Martin Dupras <martindupras@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Miller!

I don't particularly understand the math behind biquad filters, so
might you be able to elaborate on how that works? Am I right in
understanding that the first yields the first derivative of the
signal?

That's not quite what I'm trying to do; I think perhaps I need to
explain myself better.

Here's what I'm trying to do.

As I understand it, to convert a PCM signal into a (say) 1-bit sigma
delta equivalent, you'd upsample it by some power of 2 (say 32),
low-pass filter it, and then quantize to 1 bit whether the signal goes
up or down. So what I'd like to do is store the resulting delta signal
numerically in an array of the same size, but where each index is
storing, instead of a single 32-bit value, the 32-bit numerical
equivalent of the sequence of 0s and 1s that happens in the space of 1
sample.

Any idea how I would go about this?

Many thanks!

- martin

On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 17:07, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
> biquad~ 0 0 1 -1 0
>
> then to convert back,
>
> biquad~ 1 0 1 0 0
>
> (this may differ by a DC offset fromt eh original).
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 04:29:32PM +0000, Martin Dupras wrote:
> > I was wondering if anyone has tried converting PCM signals to
> > delta-sigma and vice-versa in PD? Are there any examples of how one
> > would do that?
> >
> > To be clear, I don't need it to be realtime as such; what I'd like to
> > do is be able to copy the PCM values of one array as a delta-sigma
> > version in another.
> >
> > Any ideas or pointers?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > - martin
> >
> >
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