Hi,

I have a rather old pair of Sennheiser e500 wireless systems (ENG type, portable on both ends). On the transmitter, there is an option for line level. I guess the newer versions keep that option. At least this does work for balanced line levels with the appropriate cable and the gain/sensitivity set to its lowest setting.
It's rather common to use wireless between an ENG mixer and a camera.

Hope this helps
Cheers
Pierre-Olivier

On 01/03/2013 13:19, katja wrote:

Thanks everyone for your answers.

The case is unconventional because a stereo line signal must be sent from the computer. Professional wireless systems assume mic or instrument. Consumer systems do transmit stereo signal, but without bothering too much about latency.

Frankly, I did not expect the difficulty to find a good solution. Initially I wanted the wearable computer for a music video which is to be recorded live with sounds from natural objects. I bought the FM transmitter so my cameraman will be able to hear the music while he's filming. For this purpose it is ideal. Then I thought it would be good to use the computer in it's wearable mode for public performance. I figured that one of the many wireless solutions would suit the purpose, but didn't reckon with the unusual requirements.

Further searching brought me to a new technology 'PurePath' from Texas Instruments. It has a range comparable with WiFi (30m), while it seems to work with paired devices as in Bluetooth. I haven't seen consumer products with this technology, but development kits are available. A rather convincing demo is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YsnZQUfVGs

If this system can work with low latency it could be perfect for wireless Pd.

Katja

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Antoine Villeret <antoine.villeret@gmail.com> wrote:

hello, 

those are good for what they have been designed for and it depends on what you mean by "exellent sound quality"

I've made few tests on those few years ago and the bandwidth could be good enough to transmit guitar/bass signal but nothing else for me

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2013/2/28 richard duckworth <richduckworth@yahoo.com>

Hi Katja

one of these would do it - check with Thomann tech support for gain issues (these are Instrument Level input) They should be fine however as active guitar pickups (like heavy style EMG pickups) output quite high levels. These type of wireless systems tend to be very rugged, have excellent sound quality and long battery life - and you'll want these things. 

http://www.thomann.de/ie/cat.html?gf=wireless_for_guitar_bass&oa=pra

 

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:53:43 +0100
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Subject: [PD] wireless audio from Pd to PA system
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For a wearable live performance computer, I am looking into the
options of sending wireless audio from Pd to a PA sound system and
other listeners.

In a first experiment I've tried a Linex FM transmitter. Audio quality
is good enough, and FM transmitters do not introduce latency. This
option is cheap and flexible, as the signal can be received by simple
radio's, which are even built into cell phones and media players. I
would need to boost the transmission a bit to make it more reliable.
This will of course make the equipment illegal. Even then, the risk
that someone else is transmitting a stronger signal on the channel can
not be excluded.

Another option could be to send audio over Wifi. This would require
WLAN to be available, and one extra computer (with audio interface) as
a receiver. To avoid extra latency the audio should be sent
uncompressed, like [udpsend~] / [udpreceive~] can do it. This has the
risk of packet loss and serious dropouts.

I've been searching for 2.4 GHz wireless music receivers and found
things like this:
http://www.sitecom.com/en/wireless-music-streamer/wl-061/p/203. They
seem to act like external soundcards for your computer. In Linux
though I've never managed to properly connect multiple soundcards with
Pd (in OSX it's easy using the Aggregate Device Editor from Audio MIDI
Setup). Also I guess these devices introduce huge latency. With audio
over bluetooth headsets I've experienced latencies up to a second.

Does anyone use a satisfactory method in practice, to send audio from
Pd without wires?

Thanks,
Katja

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