That's an excellent idea.  Thanks, I'll do it.
Mitch


On Dec 11, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


One note on this, it would be much better to put the files into ~/Library/Pd or /Library/Pd than into the Pd-extended.app. That way percolate will still be there after you upgrade.

.hc

On Dec 11, 2008, at 6:15 PM, Mitchell Turner wrote:

John,
I was able to get Percolate working on a MacBookPro running OS 10.5.5 and Pd-Extended 0.40.3. The way I was able to do this involved compiling from source.  The required a few steps outlined below.   

I'm not absolutely sure my changes are the best way to do things.  But it worked so I guess its an ok way to do it.  

1) I got the latest version of the Developers Tools (the ones for OS10.5).  Then I downloaded the source version of PeRColate discussed here (I had to login in order to see the attachments):

Now I had to edit the Makefile that came in the PeRColate_source folder.  (I've pasted in the Makefile below.)
2) I made changes to the "current" line, so that it read "current: pd_darwin".  

3) I removed all of the lines dealing with Windows (might be an unnecessary step). 

4) Down in the MAC OS X section, I  changed the "PD=" line to point to my version of pd.
PD = /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd

5) I also changed "MACOSXINCLUDE" line to point to the include folder inside my version of Pd-Extended.  
MACOSXINCLUDE =  -I _headers -I /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include/

6) Now in Terminal, I "cd"ed over to the "PeRColate_source" directory and ran the "make" command.  It compiled just fine (after multiple attempts and much editing of the Makefile).  

7) Now I opened the Pd-Extended application (CTRL-Click and select "open package contents"). 

8) I placed the entire PeRColate folder inside the "extras" and copied the percolate.pd_darwin file to: 
Pd-extended/Contents/Resources/extra/
copied the PeRColate_help into:
Pd-extended/Contents/Resources/doc/5.reference/

I opened Pd-Extended application and set the library to load on start up.  Pd-extended>Preferences>Startup 

I re-started Pd and all was well.  Hope this helps out, 
Mitch





Here is the Makefile I ended up with:

#Begin_Makefile---------

NAME=percolate
CSYM=percolate

current: pd_darwin

# ----------------------- LINUX i386 -----------------------

pd_linux: $(NAME).pd_linux

.SUFFIXES: .pd_linux

PATH1=1.\ Physical\ Models
PATH2=2.\ Modal\ Synthesis
PATH3=3.\ PhISM
PATH4=4.\ MaxGens
PATH5=5.\ SID
PATH6=6.\ Random\ DSP

LINUX_SOURCES = percolate.c \
_source/stk.c \
$(PATH1)/blotar/blotar~.c \
$(PATH1)/bowed/bowed~.c \
$(PATH1)/bowed\ bar/bowedbar~.c \
$(PATH1)/brass/brass~.c \
$(PATH1)/clarinet/clar~.c \
$(PATH1)/flute/flute~.c \
$(PATH1)/mandolin/mandolin~.c \
$(PATH1)/plucked/plucked~.c \
$(PATH2)/agogo/agogo~.c \
$(PATH2)/marimba/marimba~.c \
$(PATH2)/vibraphone/vibraphone~.c \
$(PATH3)/bamboo/bamboo~.c \
$(PATH3)/cabasa/cabasa~.c \
$(PATH3)/meta-shaker/metashake~.c \
$(PATH3)/sekere/sekere~.c \
$(PATH3)/sleigh\ bells/sleigh~.c \
$(PATH3)/shaker/shaker~.c \
$(PATH3)/guiro/guiro~.c \
$(PATH3)/tamb/tamb~.c \
$(PATH3)/wuter/wuter~.c \
$(PATH4)/gen10/gen10.c \
$(PATH4)/gen17/gen17.c \
$(PATH4)/gen20/gen20.c \
$(PATH4)/gen24/gen24.c \
$(PATH4)/gen25/gen25.c \
$(PATH4)/gen5/gen5.c \
$(PATH4)/gen7/gen7.c \
$(PATH4)/gen9/gen9.c \
$(PATH5)/absmax~/absmax~.c \
$(PATH5)/absmin~/absmin~.c \
$(PATH5)/chase~/chase~.c \
$(PATH5)/escal~/escalator~.c \
$(PATH5)/flip~/flip~.c \
$(PATH5)/jitter~/jitter~.c \
$(PATH5)/klutz~/klutz~.c \
$(PATH5)/random~/random~.c \
$(PATH5)/terrain~/terrain~.c \
$(PATH5)/waffle~/waffle~.c \
$(PATH5)/weave~/weave~.c \
$(PATH6)/dcblock/dcblock~.c \
$(PATH6)/gQ/gQ~.c \
$(PATH6)/munger/munger~.c \
$(PATH6)/scrubber/scrub~.c

LINUX_OBJECTS = $(LINUX_SOURCES:.c=.o)

LINUX_OBJECTS2 = percolate.o \
_source/stk.o \
$(PATH1)/blotar/blotar~.o \
$(PATH1)/bowed/bowed~.o \
$(PATH1)/bowed\ bar/bowedbar~.o \
$(PATH1)/brass/brass~.o \
$(PATH1)/clarinet/clar~.o \
$(PATH1)/flute/flute~.o \
$(PATH1)/mandolin/mandolin~.o \
$(PATH1)/plucked/plucked~.o \
$(PATH2)/agogo/agogo~.o \
$(PATH2)/marimba/marimba~.o \
$(PATH2)/vibraphone/vibraphone~.o \
$(PATH3)/bamboo/bamboo~.o \
$(PATH3)/cabasa/cabasa~.o \
$(PATH3)/meta-shaker/metashake~.o \
$(PATH3)/sekere/sekere~.o \
$(PATH3)/shaker/shaker~.o \
$(PATH3)/guiro/guiro~.o \
$(PATH3)/sleigh\ bells/sleigh~.o \
$(PATH3)/tamb/tamb~.o \
$(PATH3)/wuter/wuter~.o \
$(PATH4)/gen10/gen10.o \
$(PATH4)/gen17/gen17.o \
$(PATH4)/gen20/gen20.o \
$(PATH4)/gen24/gen24.o \
$(PATH4)/gen25/gen25.o \
$(PATH4)/gen5/gen5.o \
$(PATH4)/gen7/gen7.o \
$(PATH4)/gen9/gen9.o \
$(PATH5)/absmax~/absmax~.o \
$(PATH5)/absmin~/absmin~.o \
$(PATH5)/chase~/chase~.o \
$(PATH5)/escal~/escalator~.o \
$(PATH5)/flip~/flip~.o \
$(PATH5)/jitter~/jitter~.o \
$(PATH5)/klutz~/klutz~.o \
$(PATH5)/random~/random~.o \
$(PATH5)/terrain~/terrain~.o \
$(PATH5)/waffle~/waffle~.o \
$(PATH5)/weave~/weave~.o \
$(PATH6)/dcblock/dcblock~.o \
$(PATH6)/gQ/gQ~.o \
$(PATH6)/munger/munger~.o \
$(PATH6)/scrubber/scrub~.o


LINUXCFLAGS = -DPD -DUNIX -DICECAST -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer \
    -Wall -W -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror \
    -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch

LINUXINCLUDE =  -I _headers -I ../../pd/pd-0.36-test5/src/

.c.o:
cc $(LINUXCFLAGS) $(LINUXINCLUDE) -o "$*.o" -c "$*.c"

$(NAME).pd_linux: $(LINUX_OBJECTS)
ld -export_dynamic  -shared -o $*.pd_linux $(LINUX_OBJECTS2) -lc -lm
strip --strip-unneeded $*.pd_linux
rm -f $*.o ../$*.pd_linux
ln -s $*/$*.pd_linux ..

clean_linux:
find -name "*.o" -exec rm \{\} \;
rm *.pd_*



# ----------------------- MAC OS X -----------------------

pd_darwin: $(NAME).pd_darwin

.SUFFIXES: .pd_darwin .pd_darwin_o


MACOSXCFLAGS = -DPD -DUNIX -DMACOSX -O3 \
    -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes \
    -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch

PD = /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd

MACOSXLDFLAGS = -bundle -bundle_loader $(PD) -flat_namespace

MACOSXINCLUDE =  -I _headers -I /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include/

MACOSX_OBJECTS = $(LINUX_SOURCES:.c=.pd_darwin_o)
MACOSX_OBJECTS2 = $(LINUX_OBJECTS2:.o=.pd_darwin_o)

.c.pd_darwin_o:
cc $(MACOSXCFLAGS) $(MACOSXINCLUDE) -o "$*.pd_darwin_o" -c "$*.c"

$(NAME).pd_darwin: $(MACOSX_OBJECTS)
cc $(MACOSXLDFLAGS) -o $*.pd_darwin $(MACOSX_OBJECTS2) -lc -lm
rm -f $*.o ../$*.pd_darwin
ln -s $*/$*.pd_darwin ..

clean_darwin:
find . -name "*.pd_darwin_o" -exec rm \{\} \;
rm *.pd_*

#------------End_Makefile










On Dec 11, 2008, at 5:40 PM, John Harrison wrote:

cool! Could you send your changes to the Makefile to the list so we have it for reference the next time this comes up?

Mitchell Turner wrote:
Yeah, I tried that binary, but I think it was for PPC.  When I tried to use it, I'd get a complaint about the wrong architecture.  

So, I got the source, modified the Makefile, and compiled it myself.  Couple of missteps later it works.  
Mitch


On Dec 11, 2008, at 4:53 PM, John Harrison wrote:

cool. I don't know if you saw on the list somebody provided a link to an OSX binary as well.

Good luck!

-John

Mitchell Turner wrote:
I've gotten it to compile and it is now working.  Thanks for your help.
Mitch


On Dec 11, 2008, at 10:05 AM, John Harrison wrote:

sorry I never compiled it at all. I know it's SUPPOSED to compile in OS X, as of 5 years ago or something...

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Mitchell Turner <mmturner@mindspring.com> wrote:
John,
Thanks so much for the link.  You say you don't use it but have you compiled it for OSX?  It appears the makefile will work for OSX.
Mitch



On Dec 11, 2008, at 9:02 AM, John Harrison wrote:

you can find source here:

https://www.cs.tcd.ie/~wardn1/PD_workshop/07.installation_files/01.sources/

there's legal issues and apparently personal ones too, so it has been officially removed. If you succeed in getting it, it will have to be "under the table."

That's all I know. I've never used Percolate myself.

-John


Mitchell Turner wrote:
Dear all,
Sorry if this has been discussed ad nauseam, but I've googled  everything I can think of and have not been able to find Percolate for  Pd.

Does anyone know if there is a working version of the Percolate  objects for Pd?  I'm using Pd-Extended (0.40.3) on OSX (10.5.5).

Thanks in advance,
Mitch

http://home.lagrange.edu/mturner/




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