As long as we're at it, what are the difference between [text] and [cyclone/coll] and where do they do the same thing?

Also, it seems [coll] is deprecated in Max, they have a new object named [dict], which might be the "python like dictionary" kind of thing, and this is what Max suggests using instead of coll.

So, I was wondering if there would be any great advantage of cloning [dict] into cyclone, or if you could do the same things with [text] anyway.

cheers

2017-07-18 15:33 GMT-03:00 Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list <pd-list@lists.iem.at>:
> Hello Jonathan,

> Thanks for your reply.
> I'm not quite sure what you mean.

> What pd-vanilla object do you use to implement "Variable number of keys of arbitrarily typed values"
[text], [coll], etc.

> or "set number of keys with set value types"?
data structures

The benefit of the latter is that you know the number of "slots" ahead of time so you can populate
the data without needing to allocate memory.

> I should add that I'm interested ultimately in a data structure that I can populate from text files, read by PD.

In that case I don't think the benefit I mentioned wrt data structures matters because
the I/O speed will be your limiting factor.

My suggestion would be to start with the more expressive vanilla object-- [text]-- and see
if it fulfills your needs. Keep in mind though that it is at core not a key/value store but instead
a 2-dimensional array of atoms. E.g., you can decide that the first item in each line is your
key, but the text class interface does nothing to prevent you from adding more lines that
duplicate that same key.

-Jonathan

> -ali



On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika@yahoo.com> wrote:
Variable number of keys of arbitrarily typed values, or
set number of keys with set value types?

-Jonathan


From: Ali Momeni <batchku@gmail.com>
To: Pd-List <pd-list@lists.iem.at>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:09 PM
Subject: [PD] your favorite key:value data structure?

Hello all,

I'm looking for something analogous to the Max "coll" object, or a python dictionary, or anything with key value pairs.  

I'm aware of the 'cyclone' and its 'coll' object.

i'm wondering if there is a pd-vanilla friendly alternative to this 3rd party external.

any hints?

thanks in advance,

ali
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