I disagree. Your example lists what? 2 more developers? I'm talking about "developers" as in people working the C code, build scripts, tcl/tk etc aka people who could, theoretically, help push out a new Pd-extended release. True, we have plenty of people working on externals, but this is a problem for someone who can go deeper.

I still maintain that the number of low level developers to overall users (non-developers) is relatively low.

On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:00 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:

However, your description of the user/developer ratio doesn't ring true to me.  There's actually a surplus of developers and development energy-- I count two implementations of presets in the last year or two (in Pd-l2ork and the Chocolate et Coffee lib) which are in addition to however many already exist on svn and the Pd forum.

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Dan Wilcox
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