hey pierre, what kind of patches do you use?
would you mind sharing? :)
cheers
Hello everyone!
There was a discussion not too long ago about suitability of Pd in a live
context (off the "smoother audio" thread i think). I just wanted to say that
i use Pd everytime i play a gig with my band as a super multi effects. I
have never experienced any crash in Pd, and the sound is just excellent, and
everybody keeps asking me what the hell are these pedals and this software
and how the eff do i make all these sounds, and well, i just think this is
the future. I m just hoping that sometime soon we'll have a piece of
hardware that's small and powerful enough to run Pd in realtime and I'll
have the perfect gear (perfect for me).
Just wanted to share this.
Cheers!
Pierre
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Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 17:55:43 +0200
From: Andr?s Mur?nyi <muranyia@gmail.com>
Subject: [PD] Ever divorce from Tcl/Tk? (Was Re: puredata_gui_design)
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2010/4/17 Mathieu Bouchard <matju@artengine.ca>
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Andr?s Mur?nyi wrote:
>
> One (hard) aspect of GUI design in case of Pd is that the GUI widgets are
>> provided by Tcl/Tk at the moment, which does not allow for such kind of
>> skinning, afaik.
>>
>
> Tcl/Tk up to 8.4 allow some amount of configuration... at least much more
> than has ever been used by anyone in pd.tk.
>
> Tcl/Tk introduced the TkTile toolkit, for which I've heard that the big new
> feature is that you can skin it. I haven't tried it myself. Meanwhile, I'm
> using Pd-Extended with Tcl/Tk 8.5 while, officially, this very same version
> of Pd-Extended is said to "not support" Tcl/Tk 8.5. On top of that, Miller
> still wants to support Tcl/Tk 8.3 for some upcoming releases, and such
> things that were already becoming obsolete in 2003.
>
>
> There has been talk, however, about migrating to another GUI toolkit.
>>
>
> Talk, talk, talk, it's only talk.
> Arguments, babble, bicker bicker bicker, brouhaha, it's only talk.
>
>
Well, lets be happy we have this wonderful ability to articulate words...
;o)
As it has been mentioned, "anyone" can start porting Pd to another toolkit.
The question for me here is, if Miller, Hans, and other core people are
interested in leaving Tcl/Tk behind, and if yes, how soon?
Andras
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Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 17:21:15 +0100
From: Pedro Lopes <pedro.lopes@ist.utl.pt>
Subject: Re: [PD] Gigs with Pd
To: Pierre Massat <pimassat@gmail.com>
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>I m just hoping that sometime soon we'll have a piece of hardware >that's
small and powerful enough to run Pd in realtime and I'll have >the perfect
gear (perfect for me).
http://www.bluemelon.org/index.php/Products/BM7505_BluePD_programmable_Pure_Data_router
Never tried it though... seems interesting.
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Pierre Massat <pimassat@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello everyone!
>
> There was a discussion not too long ago about suitability of Pd in a live
> context (off the "smoother audio" thread i think). I just wanted to say that
> i use Pd everytime i play a gig with my band as a super multi effects. I
> have never experienced any crash in Pd, and the sound is just excellent, and
> everybody keeps asking me what the hell are these pedals and this software
> and how the eff do i make all these sounds, and well, i just think this is
> the future. I m just hoping that sometime soon we'll have a piece of
> hardware that's small and powerful enough to run Pd in realtime and I'll
> have the perfect gear (perfect for me).
> Just wanted to share this.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Pierre
>
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Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 13:12:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju@artengine.ca>
Subject: Re: [PD] Gigs with Pd
To: Pedro Lopes <pedro.lopes@ist.utl.pt>
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On Sun, 2 May 2010, Pedro Lopes wrote:
> >I m just hoping that sometime soon we'll have a piece of hardware >that's small and powerful enough to run Pd in realtime and I'll have >the perfect
> gear (perfect for me).
> http://www.bluemelon.org/index.php/Products/BM7505_BluePD_programmable_Pure_Data_router
> Never tried it though... seems interesting.
See also homemade http://www.workinprogress.ca/biscuit-box-computer/
by Patrick S Coulombe.
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Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 13:34:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju@artengine.ca>
Subject: Re: [PD] Ever divorce from Tcl/Tk? (Was Re:
puredata_gui_design)
To: Andr?s Mur?nyi <muranyia@gmail.com>
Cc: PD List <pd-list@iem.at>
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On Sun, 2 May 2010, Andr?s Mur?nyi wrote:
> As it has been mentioned, "anyone" can start porting Pd to another
> toolkit.
Why would you care, that an unspecified person said "anyone" "can" do
"whatever" on pd-list ? It isn't a sign of anything. Why don't you instead
think about why the project really matters, and about what is needed to
succeed at the task ?
> The question for me here is, if Miller, Hans, and other core people are
> interested in leaving Tcl/Tk behind, and if yes, how soon?
If anyone cared, there would be a prototype already.
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 18:53:59 +0100
From: Florian Hollerweger <flo@mur.at>
Subject: [PD] Errors after renaming patch with exotic chars in
filename
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Dear list,
In the project I am working on, I used two have two abstractions with
exotic characters in their filenames:
[time<]
[<=>]
After renaming those to something more sensible, I get the following
error messages when I open these abstractions from their "parent" patch
(i.e. the patch which uses them as abstractions) and then try to edit
and save them:
error: .xa98a600: no such object
error: .xa9aef98: no such object
error: .xaa2f3d8: no such object
[...]
I assume there is some sort of "invisible leftover" of the old filenames
in the "parent" patch. Any ideas what would be the fastest way to get
rid of this? I already tried copying & pasting both abstractions
themselves and the "parent" patch to a new file, but that didn't help.
Having said that, there are some dependencies in between (abstractions
in the "parent" patch which call those two abstractions), which I did
not copy and paste to to new files, so maybe the culprit is there?
best,
flo.
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 20:47:32 +0200
From: Andr?s Mur?nyi <muranyia@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] Ever divorce from Tcl/Tk? (Was Re:
puredata_gui_design)
To: PD List <pd-list@iem.at>
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2010/5/2 Mathieu Bouchard <matju@artengine.ca>
> On Sun, 2 May 2010, Andr?s Mur?nyi wrote:
>
> As it has been mentioned, "anyone" can start porting Pd to another
>> toolkit.
>>
>
> Why would you care, that an unspecified person said "anyone" "can" do
> "whatever" on pd-list ? It isn't a sign of anything. Why don't you instead
> think about why the project really matters, and about what is needed to
> succeed at the task ?
>
I was implicitly ironic, based on our shared knowledge of more floating
ideas than actual projects.
I do think about why the project really matters. ;o) I think Pd shall get a
proper language-independent API.
If you want to know why I don't start this project up myself, no it's not
shyness or learned helplessness but the mere fact that i'm doing two jobs to
survive and have no joules left for this. My bad.
The question for me here is, if Miller, Hans, and other core people are
> interested in leaving Tcl/Tk behind, and if yes, how soon?
>
If anyone cared, there would be a prototype already.
>
Well, i just imagine it is not easy to have one's 'child' undergo such a
severe operation, so one might not make up a decision or even publicly
address the question so easily.
Andras
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