I thought [send13] and [receive13] from the ext13 library were for settable send and receive? Or am I misunderstanding the question?

I've used those 2 objects a lot and thought they seemed pretty stable...

-John

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika@yahoo.com> wrote:
Does anyone have a demo crasher, with iem_receive, [r~], or of any of the iemguis (which of course have settable receives as well)?

It's not immediately apparent how to change a receive symbol while a message is "currently passing through the receive object".  I though Pd was supposed to be deterministic.


-Jonathan



----- Original Message -----
> From: Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu>
> To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika@yahoo.com>
> Cc: IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig@iem.at>; "pd-list@iem.at" <pd-list@iem.at>
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [PD] variable receive objects?
>
> Hi all -
>
> If you make a settable 'receive' and then change the setting in a
> context
> in which a message is currently passing through the receive object (not
> at all an unlikely thing to have happen) it will crash Pd.  There are ways
> around this but I don't know of any that would not slow down the global
> functioning of Pd itself.
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 07:07:28AM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  > From: IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig@iem.at>
>>  > To: pd-list@iem.at
>>  > Cc:
>>  > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 4:03 AM
>>  > Subject: Re: [PD] variable receive objects?
>>  >
>>  > On 05/12/2012 07:58 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>  >>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  >>
>>  >>>  From: Marian Weger<mail@marianweger.com>
>>  >>>  To: pd-list@iem.at
>>  >>>  Cc:
>>  >>>  Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 8:09 AM
>>  >>>  Subject: Re: [PD] variable receive objects?
>>  >>>
>>  >>>  hi!
>>  >>>
>>  >>>>    is there a way to generate a variable receive object
> similar to a
>>  > send via
>>  >>>  message box, whose source is defined at load time?
>>  >>>
>>  >>>  use iem_receive / iem_r from iemlib.
>>  >>
>>  >>  Wow, that is classic Pd development style-- add a tiny feature to
> an
>>  >>  object, but don't actually improve _that_ object.
>>  >
>>  > ever thought that there might be a good reason why [r] is not
> seettable,
>>  > and that [iem_r] - while superficially working - exposes exactly the
>>  > problems of a settable [r]?
>>
>>  Enlighten me.
>>
>>  >
>>  > mfgadsr
>>  > IOhannes
>>  >
>>  > PS: there should be a discussion on this topic in the archives.
>>
>>  I don't find anything of the sort.  Tried searching for "settable
> receive", "setting receive",
>>  and "iem_receive"
>>
>>  -Jonathan
>>
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