if you want a [change] that will always output its first value, regardless of what it is, then you could set up a little thing like this attached patch


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:19 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig@iem.at> wrote:
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On 2013-09-23 17:45, Mario Mey wrote:
> If i create [change] and send it a [0(, it outputs nothing.

yes

> It seems like it has already the 0 value initiated.

yes.

>
> I think [change] should not work like this...
>

i disagree.

[change] *always* takes an argument, which is the initial value.
if you fail to provide one, it will default to '0'.
changing this behaviour might break patches, hence it is a no-go.

fgmadr
IOhannes

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