Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com wrote:
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From: Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca To: Ivica Ico Bukvic ico@vt.edu Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [PD] ANN: pd-l2ork v.20120304 and new disis_wiimote
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Le 2012-03-06 à 00:42:00, Ivica Ico Bukvic a écrit :
Font based zooming simply changes font sizes and repositions all
objects to
be still in the same relation to each other. True zooming (ala
desiredata),
while desireable (no pun intended)
Well, in desiredata, puns were intended. The name was made from desiderata, a latin word to allude to todo-lists and wish-lists.
is at this point IMO too much work for too little gain.
Curiously, I would have said exactly that about your fontsize thing.
I would say
that true zooming is the only way to go, and anything else distracts
by creating
bigger complications.
I don't agree. The pd-extended/vanilla font dialog is good for choosing an initial font size, and _nearly_ useless for changing font sizes. Pd-l2ork font dialog is good for choosing an initial font size, perfectly fine for changing font sizes when normal text objects are all that is in the patch, somewhat useful for changing font size in a patch mixed with text objects and iemguis, and only completely useless when changing font size for a patch in which only iemguis are visible.
But even this is debatable if you consider that the zoom tool is actually a patcher font size change tool (not gui zoom tool) that can be misrepresented as a zoom tool. In this case it makes no sense to resize iemgui objects when they are explicitly designed as gui objects whose properties are adjusted independently of core fonts. This is why also true zooming is impossible to do on tcl/tk canvas that has both vectors and fonts. And this is exactly why I chose not to bother with this feature.
This isn't just theoretical. I wanted to read a help patch in a larger font, and on pd-l2ork I just increased the font size and stretched the patch window to be bigger. On pd-extended/vanilla the text objects would have collided with a bigger font and would have been illegible.
-Jonathan
we really need 2 instances. One that is based essentially off of
libpd and
another that is a robust editor with none of the convoluted client
server model
between the editor and the engine itself that has made improving on
the code so
cumbersome…
You want to replace the current client-server model by what exactly ?
Most
likely another kind of client-server model ?
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