On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Frank Barknecht <fbar@footils.org> wrote:
Hallo,
Rich E hat gesagt: // Rich E wrote:

> Ah nice, especially for throwing that together live.  Thanks for the
> tutorial!
>
> Not to be too much of a critic on a good tutorial, but... it is quite static
> though, for the flexibility of pd, don't you think?  Limiting all the
> rhythms to 32nd notes.  Frank, I would love to see your approach to creating
> a more 'dynamic' drum sequencer.  I have tried a couple times now and my
> current one got too complicated quite fast.  Yet, I see it as the main
> benefit for using pd for sequencing over other midi sequencers - there is no
> limit for beat segmentations.

The g_pattern32 object was designed with traditional
pop/rock/dance/house/hihop/whatever music in mind. (Btw. the latest version
added to the RjDj svn now includes a tiny bit of keyboard support: press "t"
for toggling a step during the first second after selecting it.)

But in the end it's just a little sugar coating for a Pd array hopefully making
editing arrays graphically a bit less painful but still fast. The table itself
can be used as source material for other tasks as well, e.g.  as a probability
table etc.

It would be possible to make a variation of the object where you can resize the
array dynamically, use a number box to select steps to edit etc., but as you
have seen yourself: It becomes complicated quite fast, which may be a sign that
there is no good general approach to editing free form table data and that it
may be better to do that in external software like a midi file editor or a
spreadsheet. Or that editing it is wrong altogether and instead some
algorithmic procedure should be used ...

Actually I have always been interested in sequencing in pd because midi software (especially free midi software) is so limited; they are also only capable of 'pop' rhythms. 

Algorithmic rhythms still need need to be organised in some manner more meaningful than code, in my opinion.  There is huge area in-between algorithmic music and pop music.

Arg, I wish I had more time to show what I have been working on, I have always meant to post it on this board at some point. It is another topic, though.
 

Ciao
--
Frank

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