hi there,
is anybody still into the tshirt thing? i think i could help with the printing. i'm not good at thinking of designs though. bang-until was quite common-sense - afaik there hasnt been lot response on that!?
i wanted to bring up the topic again - basically because i want a pd-tshirt too :)
cheers
Am 06.04.2009 um 06:23 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
I like the DIY way. It would be great if people organized their own fundraisers and bounties. I think that fits in well with the anarchic nature of Pd.
There are things like cafepress.com for t-shirts and the like. It is more expensive than doing it yourself, probably, but its easier. It would be nice to see more than one Pd t-shirt available. I'd like bang-until and that cake, for example.
.hc
On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Ben Baker-Smith wrote:
Thanks Kyle,
That's much more in line with what I'm looking to do. I also cannot
afford to go to PdCon given that it's all the way in Brazil, and I'm
sure the majority of Pd users are in the same boat. A documentation
bounty seems like a good way to encourage people to document, and give
them a way of justifying their time. And, I agree, probably more
worthwhile than paying half of one person's ticket to Sao Paulo.
In regards to designs, and printing:
I'm thinking it might be cheapest (allowing more money to be raised)
for me to print the shirts myself.. I just need to come up with a
solid price estimate in the next couple days. Also, this seems more
in line with the do-it-yourself attitude of Pd than, say, e-mailing a
.Gif file to an internet service and letting it all go through them.
I have couple designs I've drawn up myself, and a few have been
submitted to me via this list. So, hopefully by the end of the
weekend, I will upload them to my site and post a link on the list for
feedback.
-Ben
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Kyle Klipowicz <kyleklip@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I agree that the fund should be for a documentation bounty.
I think that Ben (or whoever makes the shirts) should hold the money in
trust. Perhaps set up an interest-bearing account to save the cash in. Then
create a well-documented (pun?) bounty description of what key features are
to be implemented and the financial payment for each.
You could do micropayments for key help patches or examples, say $20 US
each, or a big bounty for larger sections such as re-organizing existing
patches into a tidy intro library for new uses, with ready-mades to go.
I think this would be a longer lasting value than paying for Pd-con. I'd
love to go myself, but probably cannot afford it...but I'd rather see some
solid documentation be built...or have the financial incentive to do it!
(Not a capitalist, just a hungry belly).
~Kyle
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Ben Baker-Smith <bbakersmith@gmail.com>
wrote:
I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon. But, having never
been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns.
I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward
documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make PD more
accessible to new users. Does the convention encourage/promote
documentation? Is time spent at the convention trying to increase the
existing body of literature?
If so, then I'm all for it. I just don't want to settle on PdCon if
it's only useful to attendees. (of course, I understand that in a
good open-source community knowledge gained by any members contributes
in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more
formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list)
Glad to hear the interest. I'm still looking into the best way to go
about printing, selling, and distributing.
If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the help and
added input.
-Ben
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay
<acastonguay@artengine.ca> wrote:
Hi Ben, all,
We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the Convention in
Montréal. We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with the
proceeds :-). Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo?
The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the original t's I
should still have it if you want.
À bientôt,
Alexandre
Hello List,
I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts. I haven't
totally worked out the logistics. Basically I was inspired by the
[Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer available
as far as I can tell.
Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the proceeds toward
further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly
documented objects (or example patches, which is basically the same
thing).
How do you all think would be the best way of going about this?
Should I stockpile the money and then offer it to someone as a sort of
grant? That's less than ideal in my opinion. I really don't know how
to go about this.
Any/all input is welcome
-Ben
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