--- On Wed, 11/10/10, João Pais jmmmpais@googlemail.com wrote:
From: João Pais jmmmpais@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Musical notation object on Pd To: "patko" colet.patrice@free.fr Cc: "pd-list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 12:55 PM
we can have a few examples in
here:
http://james-ingram-act-two.de/stockhausen/stockhausenScores.html
ah, didn't know he had these examples, weren't there last time I visited this site.
particulary Xi for flûte, http://james-ingram-act-two.de/stockhausen/Xi/sxia1l.html
he use exactly the same notation shown in your preview
picture, thank you for showing it.
Those are samples of papers written by the master, but
the pieces I played at school contained also explanations about symbols used all along the scores,
maybe be that's why I confused the issue by saying he
used his own standard.
master indeed, but not about microtonal music or notation. these pieces I don't know (am not very interested in the Licht period), and if you look at the Licht formula (http://www.analogartsensemble.net/blog/licht_superformula.jpg), it's basically chromatic. The Klang cycle I also don't know, it can be that there are more microtonal works there. In current day notation there are also huge amounts of symbols for all kinds of actions (and as with pitch notation, some composers share symbols, other decide to make new ones), but that's not important for this discussion.
Also, how a composer would do when he need to
build his own scale, from empiric harmonic rules?
Let me try to explain, music composition has evolved a
certain way technically that one composer could build up a scale for each different piece he makes.
How could he write scores that could be read by any
genuine musician any time?
[warning for anyone else, the rest of the paragraph has nothing to do with Pd]
I'm going backwards on the sentences:
Absolutely, he can't (and that can be a good thing). How do you know how a staccato in a Beethoven piano sonata really sounds?
Do you mean "how a staccato in a Beethoven sonata sounded to an audience member listening to the composer himself play it"? Because I don't at all understand what it means to say what a notated piece of music "really" sounds like.
-Jonathan