> oh i see that the discussion is currently going on (i was under
> the impression that you *were* discussing it a while ago).

Yeah, and, as it turns out, from that discussion, I learned that is that last version of Extended actually loads cyclone Uzi when you type "uzi". So we do have in fact 3 objects in Pd extended with the exact same name, so my point about redundancy and messiness remains.

New issues do come about, by the way. Now, if you load [uzi], it'll get cyclone's object ("Uzi"), so if you load kalashnikov latter, in its help file it'll say it can also be loaded as [uzi], but the [uzi] in kalashnikov's help file is actually the one from cyclone, so the help from kalashnikov doesn't work, cause it's actually different than the cyclone version. And you'll never load kalashnikov as "uzi" from now on, unless you change your startup settings and load ext13/kalashnikov... then you can try [ext13/uzi] to load kalashnikov.

But if you load kalashnikov first, well, now you won't get cyclone's version when you type "uzi", but kalashnikov...

so, well, kinda confusing...

I'd vouch for trying and eliminating the redundancy and equal names somehow. I'd suggest killing the alias name of kalashnikov, it'd solve all that for Pd Extended. Why not ak47 as an alias? :)

but again, useless and pointless discussion if we're not dealing with an update of Pd Extended right now.

cheers


2015-03-05 18:01 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig@iem.at>:
On 03/05/2015 09:56 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
>> >
>> > Moreover, the cyclone version has upper case U... we were discussing here
>> > if we could make a lower case alias,
> i have missed that discussion, but cyclone's uppercasing is a *design
> choice* to make sure that the max compat layer does not conflict with Pd.

oh i see that the discussion is currently going on (i was under the
impression that you *were* discussing it a while ago).

in any case: afair cyclones goal is to allow to easily migrate an old
max-patch to a shiny Pd-patch, rather than make Pd a shallow copy/the
ugly sister of max.
so my point remains.


gsamrd
IOhannes


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