On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 10:56 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> On Mar 4, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> > Actually [zexy/makesymbol] wasn't ever used in [arduino], only in
> > arduino-help.pd . There it's used to display the Firmware version in a
> > GOP cnv object -> [zexy/makesymbol firmata_%s.%s]. This can be safely
> > replaced nowadays by [symbol firmata_$1.$2(. However, I didn't even use
> > that, because I thought it would be useful to display the whole Firmata
> > specification there, not only the protocol version. It now displays
> > something like:
> >
> > StandardFirmata 2 3
> >
> > and it does so with only using vanilla classes. Let me point that
> > [arduino] itself is not all affected by this.
>
> Replacing [zexy/makesymbol] sounds like a good solution. I think that
> the [symbol Firmata_$1.$2( will produce the most readable version of
> this. "StandardFirmata 2 3" is not super clear, especially to
> newbies.
Why would like the help-patch to only show the version in some weird
format instead of showing exactly what [arduino]'s right outlet is
sending? Am I missing something here? It's easy to change, but I don't
get your point here. If you insist, i'll change it.
> >> Pduino deliberately uses namespace prefixes because that's currently
> >> the only way to guarantee the correct object is being loaded.
> >
> > Agreed.
> >
> >> Using [declare -lib zexy] [makesymbol] does not currently guarantee
> >> that (tho it should).
> >
> > Yeah, I also agree that it should.
> >
> > Please, tell me about your further constraints, if there are any, and
> > I'll see how I can comply with them.
>
> I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I am sure they exist.
> The best approach for something like this, I think, is to try to make
> sure that the given output is exactly the same. So if the
> [zexy/makesymbol] code produces "Firmata_2.3", the updated code should
> as well, unless the problem is specifically because the message is
> like "Firmata_2.3".
Sorry, if I am wrong, but I have the slight feeling, that you still
think that something in [arduino] has changed. I can assure you that the
updated [arduino] gives the _exact_ same output as the original one.
That is, it still sends:
'firmware StandardFirmata 2 3'
'version 2 3'
to it's right outlet. Only the help-patch has changed (see above).
Please be assured, I wouldn't change any message format in [arduino]
itself.
So, how we proceed?
Roman