great, let us know about the updates when they become available

2015-06-24 7:27 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan@xs4all.nl>:
Hi Alexandre,

> The help file acts as if the audio input needed to be between 0
> and 1, but that is not true, it actually is from -1 to 1, try it
> and you will see. That's the way it originally works in Max as
> well, by the way.

Ok, fixed.
>
> And now for a bug. When you specify an offset, it goes from that
> offset point until the given boundary. But the way it is acting
> is that it's continuing after the end of the boundary, outputing
> silence.

It isn't implemented as a boundary, but as size parameter. Pd lookup~
tries to read from offset to offset+size. Reading past the array gets
you zero's, as is customary in Pd.

Max 5 lookup~ appears to have it implemented as an offset and a boundary
or end-point in the array. So it reads from offset to end-point.

The new version will behave like Max 5.

> help also ommits you can use a set message to specify the buffer,
> like before

Ok, fixed.

> one more thing: there's a first argument which is the table size, a
> second argument which is a float for offset, and there is a THIRD
> argument that specifies the size of the buffer and is not mentioned (if
> it is not specified, it's 512)

As I understand it, the arguments are:
1 - array/table name
2 - initial offset in array/table (default 0)
3 - initial end-point array/table (default 512)

This is how the new help file specifies it.

Greetings,

Fred Jan
>
> 2015-06-23 20:12 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com
> <mailto:porres@gmail.com>>:
>
>
>     2015-06-23 20:07 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com
>     <mailto:porres@gmail.com>>:
>
>         now we need to talk about [lookup~] :)
>
>
>         cheers
>
>         2015-06-05 3:29 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan@xs4all.nl
>         <mailto:fjkraan@xs4all.nl>>:
>
>             Hi Alexandre,
>
>             Sorry, I had missed your message, most active Pd-time had
>             gone into
>             helping to improve the build system for cyclone and
>             pd-externals in
>             general.
>
>             The concept of hot and cold inlets appears to apply to
>             messages, not
>             signals. Sah~ appears to work as described in the Max5
>             documentation.
>             I'll improve the help-patch.
>
>             Consider it a good thing Pd can confuse you. It would get
>             boring if it
>             didn't :-).
>
>             Greetings,
>
>             Fred Jan
>
>
>             On 2015-06-05 03:42 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>             > please do not consider my previous message, I clearly had no idea what I
>             > was talking about and was just really confused :) sorry
>             >
>             > 2015-05-26 18:12 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>
>             > <mailto:porres@gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>>>:
>             >
>             >     By the way, [sah~] in Pd has the inlets switched. In max, the left
>             >     one is supposed to trigger the sample and hold, unlike [samphold~]
>             >     in Pd. But [sah~] is just like [samphold~]. In order for it to be a
>             >     proper clone of max, that'd need to be corrected, not sure if it
>             >     happened already.
>             >
>             >     2015-05-24 23:18 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>
>             >     <mailto:porres@gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>>>:
>             >
>             >         for instance, it says "Symbol argument sets name of table to
>             >         play from. Additional int argument after that sets sample offset
>             >         into the table (default 0)"
>             >
>             >         well, I put an int argument after that, and it doesn't really
>             >         work at all!
>             >
>             >         2015-05-24 23:05 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres
>             >         <porres@gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>
>             <mailto:porres@gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>>>:
>             >
>             >             hi fred, how's it going? I was checking [cycle~] and it
>             >             seems it's not behaving much closely like in max, have you
>             >             checked that? I'm saying more about its behaviour as a
>             >             wavetable, where it can offsett the table and everything.
>             >
>             >             I can't find that list of bugs you were working on, where is
>             >             it? How is it anyway?
>             >
>             >             thanks
>             >             cheers
>             >
>             >             2015-01-23 14:25 GMT-02:00 Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan@xs4all.nl <mailto:fjkraan@xs4all.nl>
>             >             <mailto:fjkraan@xs4all.nl
>             <mailto:fjkraan@xs4all.nl>>>:
>             >
>             >                 Hi All,
>             >
>             >                 At
>             >                 http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/digaud/puredata/cyclone/index.html
>             >                 a new set of revised help-patches for the cyclone
>             >                 library are available. Most previous remarks are applied.
>             >
>             >                 There are now previews of the Windows binaries and
>             >                 MacOSX. The latter is build on MacOSX 10.5 with XCode
>             >                 3.14, so should have executables for PPC, i386 and
>             >                 i386_64. I confirmed the last two are working (10.5 and
>             >                 10.8).
>             >
>             >                 It remains in progress, in the task list are the fixed
>             >                 and remaining issues.
>             >
>             >                 Fred Jan
>             >
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