thank you all very much for these infos, its a great help on how to proceed !
tks
jma

Le 10 janv. 2017 à 19:14, Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com> a écrit :

cyclone 0.3 also has alphanumeric versions of the objects found in the cyclone library (e.g. notequals~ instead of !=~), so you can use them even if you do not load the library. And you can also just load the library with [declare]

cheers

2017-01-10 14:49 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com>:
you just need it in the path

now it depends on which cyclone you downloaded from "deken"

v0-extended is actually "0.1.alpha-56" and it does contain a "hidden" (more like "misplaced") cyclone library in the "maxmode" folder. This library loads 12 non alphanumeric objects that you don't find as single binaries along with every other cyclone object. So you can use that in both ways, as a library or a set of compiled externals.

If you are trying to bring all extended libraries into Pd you may have chosen this one. But I advise not to use this one as it's arguably the worst cyclone distribution out there. For the most part, Extended did provide "0.1.alpha55", the alpha56 came in the last Pd Extended (0.43) but it breaks many spectral processing patches because of a bug in cartopol~/poltocar~

You're much better off with the other option you find in deken, which is cyclone "0.2beta", it's an update in respect to the other version and fixes that and other issues. But for this release, the "cyclone library" along with other libraries that used to come in cyclone (maxmode, sickle, hammer) were discarded. It now carries a new library called "nettles" that loads the 12 non alphanumeric objects that you don't find as single binaries.

Me, Derek and Matt have been working on an update for cyclone (version 0.3). I thought it was best to revert back and restore the cyclone library instead of a newly named library. It only contains the so called 12 non alphanumeric objects as well but we might use it for other features. This oughta keep it backwards compatible to the legacy cyclone ("0.1.alpha-56" and earlier). Our work is still highly experimental, in a "pre alpha" phase, but I hope we can move on to an alpha phase next month. You wont find it in deken, but you may find some pre alpha releases here https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/releases - more info about the project is found in that github repo.

here's a print of my install of cyclone 0.3, I just put the path into Pd's path and the "cyclone library" in the startup

cheers

2017-01-09 18:59 GMT-02:00 Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu>:
I'm guessing - but I believe to get cyclone you have to add the appropriate
shared library to "startup" in Pd's preferences - and perhps it's the same
for maxlib.

The other packages are implemented as separate files for each object, so that
they auto-load.

cheers
Miller

On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 05:38:11PM +0100, jma@jeanmarie-adrien.net wrote:
> Hello
> This is a attempt to migrate from pd-extended to more updated versions for everyday use  :
> means im trying to make my own libraries (for the first time in 15 years)
>
> I've discovered the ‘Find Externals’ lever in the main menu, and it works for zexy, iemmatrix (so far) but i could not make it work for cyclone or maxlib
>
> means (cyclone) and (maxlib) folders are downloaded to /Library/Pd/, just as iemmatfrix or zexy but when launching pd it says "can’t load library"
> in all cases i do download the (Darwin-x86_64-32)(sources)-externals.
>
> Anything to ‘make’ ?
>
> Sorry to post this obvious question, looked for a while hints on internet and archives without success
> tks
> JmA
>
>
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