also i wonder if its possible to compile with dans retina changes. i can not remember off tip of head but i "think" this was using tc/tcl 8.6? I attached image. bottom is old 0.47.1 compile and top is recent compile. i did not see anything specific to this in pull requests.

On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 1:19 PM, me.grimm <megrimm@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah sure. old plist:

// !!! BINARY PROPERTY LIST WARNING !!!
//
// The pretty-printed property list below has been created
// from a binary version on disk and should not be saved as
// the ASCII format is a subset of the binary representation!
//
{ audioapi = "4";
audiobuf = "5";
"audioindev1" = "0 2";
"audioindevname1" = "Built-in Microph";
"audiooutdev1" = "0 2";
"audiooutdevname1" = "Built-in Output";
blocksize = "64";
callback = "0";
defeatrt = "0";
flags = "";
"loadlib1" = "Gem";
nloadlib = "1";
noaudioin = "False";
noaudioout = "False";
nomidiin = "True";
nomidiout = "True";
npath = "1";
"path1" = "/Users/megrimm/Library/Pd/Gem";
rate = "44100";
standardpath = "1";
verbose = "0";
zoom = "1";
}

On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu> wrote:
OK, so my guess is that Pd is crashing when it tries to load preferences.
You didn't by any chance keep a copy of the old "plist" files did you?

Perhaps it's an attempt to load external libraries that are no longer
compatible for some reason.  I need to find a way to get Pd to survive
when "bad" binaries get oaded into it :)

M

On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 01:05:51PM -0400, me.grimm wrote:
> hmmm.... bot seem to start fine now (after I removed org.puredata.pd.plist
> and org.puredata.pd.pd-gui.plist)... although cli output is different with
> error from 64bit:
>
> megrimm-mbp:Desktop megrimm$ Pd-0.48-0test1.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
>
> Pt_Start() called
>
> pdsend errorname: >>error writing "sock6": broken pipe<<
>
> megrimm-mbp:Desktop megrimm$
> Pd-0.48-0test1-32bit.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
>
> Pt_Start() called
>
> ^CPd: signal 2
>
> gui socket 4 - closing audio...
>
> closing MIDI...
>
> ... done.
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hmm...  CAn either or both of you try it from a terminal window and show me
> > what error messages you're getting?  To do that, open a "terminal" window
> > and type a command like:
> >
> > /Users/msp/build/Pd-0.48-0test1.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
> >
> > (substituting your local path to Pd for the one I used above)
> >
> > You should see some complaints you can paste into an e-mail :)
> >
> > M
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:47:08PM -0400, me.grimm wrote:
> > > >> The 32 but Mac version just keeps crashing as it opens for me. The
> > > 64bits version seems to work fine.
> > >
> > > i think its the opposite (at least for me). 64bit crashes and 32bit
> > > opens.... on OSX 10.12
> > >
> > > m
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 6:04 AM, JTG III <jordanthomasgibbonsiii@gmail.
> > com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The 32 but Mac version just keeps crashing as it opens for me. The
> > 64bits
> > > > version seems to work fine.
> > > >
> > > > I'll try it out on a windows machine in a little while.
> > > >
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