I don't think this solves the problem, I load them in order 

[t b b]->[import vbap]

       ->[import define_loudspeakers]

and still get that "error: vbap: no method for 'loudspeaker-matrices'"error.

I made sure vbap is not in the list of binaries to load. ggee is, not sure whether it loads it.

I also get the warning "vbap: Could not open loudspeaker data file .../ls_setup"

By the way, [vbap] is so poorly doccumented... :(

The whole sequence of warning I get when loading a simple example is:

define_loudspeakers - v1.0.3 - 12 Aug 2006 - (c) Ville Pulkki 1999-2006

vbap: already loaded

define_loudspeakers: already loaded

vbap: Using default loudspeaker setup

vbap: Could not open loudspeaker data file .../ls_setup

So, what functional version should I use? We need vbap working for our piece.

Thanks!

Josep M

> From: hans@at.or.at
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:51:27 -0500
> To: katjavetter@gmail.com
> CC: pd-list@iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] error: vbap: no method for 'loudspeaker-matrices'
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:26 AM, katja wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Christoph Kuhr <christoph.kuhr@web.de> wrote:
> >
> >> but when i want to use define_loudspeakers with a vbap module, pd complains:
> >>
> >> error: vbap: no method for 'loudspeaker-matrices'
> >
> >
> > In vbap.c method 'vbap_matrix' is called via message
> > 'loudspeaker-matrices', yet the method is not recognized. Possibly
> > because the method expects a Symbol argument as well. From the help
> > patches I can't understand what it really needs. The C-code speaks of
> > 'lsset', loudspeaker set I assume.
>
> I think there is a bug in that version. To workaround it, you need to load [vbap] first, then [define_loudspeaker]
>
> .hc
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