[declare -lib] can be useful with certain kind of (homemade) externals, where you have to ensure that a given class is declared before instantiating an object which itself refers to this class.
Hey,
> but only if the external is within a given serach path on PD startup.
Which is also true for [declare -lib] - it can't magically find libraries without having the correct search paths. Note that for every external "foo" the loader also tries "foo/foo", so [declare -path hid] is not necessary, you can just do [hid]. I don't see any purpose for [declare -lib hid] except maybe for documentation (but then I would just write a comment).
> > i guess Peter was saying that he only loads libraries/externals
> explicitly when they are needed.
I don't get it. When I do [hid] - without [declare -lib] -, it will be exactly loaded when needed.
Christof
> Gesendet: Montag, 07. Oktober 2019 um 14:50 Uhr
> Von: "oliver" <oliver@klingt.org>
> An: Pd-list <pd-list@mail.iem.at>
> Betreff: Re: [PD] declare not posting library loading message while object creation does?
>
> Christof Ressi wrote:
> >> And this was sarcasm too.
> >
> > damn, my sarcasm-O-meter failed miserably...
> >
> >> I was using [declare -lib hid] because this is how I load libraries in general.
> >
> > "-lib" is only needed for multi-object-per-binary libraries, e.g. zexy and iemlib. [declare -lib hid] doesn't do anything useful, the external will be loaded anyway when you create it the first time...
> >
>
> but only if the external is within a given serach path on PD startup.
>
> i guess Peter was saying that he only loads libraries/externals
> explicitly when they are needed. (which is a good practice for testing
> purposes or prior to posting/sharing patches)
>
> in the case of [hid] (or [hidin] on windows) it would be [declare -path
> hid] though, since (as christof correctly said) it's a single external
> rather than a multiobject library (like ZEXY, IEMLIB, IEMMATRIX, GEM).
>
> best
>
> oliver
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