On Dec 11, 2022, at 11:58 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 22:34:14 +0000 (UTC)
From: Sebastian Shader <sebfumaster@aol.com>
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of course the most common suggestion is to use [date] and [time] from zexy. maybe the better solution is to put those objects into vanilla..