-The last and more serious problem is that I can't
test my gr.po file. Everything needs to be done with
sudo to run and be installed properly and when I reach
the commands from your guide:
               $ ./autogen.sh && .configure && make

there are some errors in the terminal:
               rm: src/config*: No such file or directory
               rm: src/makefile*: No such file or directory
               ./autogen.sh: line 13: libtoolize: command not found



I think no problems were in the gettext installation.
I' m on an intel Macbook Pro 2008, with MacOSX Leopard.



You need to install GNU libtool.  Using Fink is the way that the Mac OS X builds of Pd use. http://finkproject.org.  Or really, I should make a build system that doesn't need libtool... coming soon.

.hc


Thank you for your answers .
I still have problems with libtool installed. I installed libtool through FinkCommander , as you suggested but in terminal there are still errors trying the commands:

    $ ./autogen.sh && .configure && make
rm: src/config*: No such file or directory
rm: src/makefile*: No such file or directory
libtoolize: `configure.in' does not exist
Try `libtoolize --help' for more information.
    $

What's wrong? I am in the  ~/0.41.4/  directory when trying these. Some files are missing??




Even for me, the translator of the app would be confusing if all tutorials / help patches/ lists were using them... and then I had to face with terms: Object, Slider, Patch, DSP etc translated in Greek language in my installed App! I asked a friend of mine and he wouldn't use the translated app either! I find it like translating the MIDI acronyms. Too ugly and scary...

Where's the ugliness coming from? a shame insidiously infused into your people by the American Empire? You didn't question the beauty of the English words when you learned them, did you? I didn't either. I talk like that because it's a problem that I'm all too familiar with. It took me a long time to figure out the "ugliness" factor... and factor it out... to the extent that we can.

Well ,
I don't find greek / french languages nor the translated terms in Pd ugly. I just find... the USE of these terms uggly and confusing. I would also find "ugly" , for Americans to use something like "Star-Laws" and french people "étoile-loi" for the Greek-originated word Astronomy. It's like an international commitment that some names and terms have to be unchanged.
But, I found interesting the Catch-22 you did mention. I didn't know it :)

Thanks again for your time.

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