To be fair, people work on what is important to them, so no need to flame. I'd suggest that a university program that *requires* PD should at least be willing to fund/support it's development instead of using it as a cheap alternative to Max and then *hoping* that "open source" will do that for them.

Anyway, I may have scared up some funding to support me for a week to do this in the summer. I'll chime back in when I know more details

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:23 PM, me.grimm <megrimm@gmail.com> wrote:
>> disclaimer: i love linux and probably are not un-biased.

Agreed!

But unfortunately, here, students of Transmedia (Syracuse U) are required to buy a Mac freshmen year and are taught on osx systems/programs throughout their 4 undergraduate years. we (pd community) keeps loosing them to max/msp/jitter people/teachers here which is tragic in my opinion and gets me quite heated....

It is pertinent to note I have 60+ art/design/media students this semester all being introduced to Pd in some capacity and when it starts crashing and they lose their work they get quite turned off, not just with Pd but with programming as a artist/art student in general.....

I am sure the knowledge here in this community and on this list can pull together and help rectify the situation....

johannes, dan, antoine and others have done awesome with Gem .... its really an amazing lib and if i could take a semester off and learn how to code better I would! maybe there are students interested in helping out? others that want to learn coding on OSX?

my 2 cents on pd's osx future:

fuck pd-extended (hans is dead god rest his pd soul)
fuck pd-l20rk (is there any chance of an OSX 64 bit build with native Gem plugs? prob not....)

CORE PD + GEM .... that is all that is necessary at the moment. Almost everything else can be abstractions....


it seems like a lot of time is wasted on bullshit curved elbowed cables and the like....


m


On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:

From: "IOhannes m zmölnig" <zmoelnig@iem.at>
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Cc: 
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 22:19:23 +0100
Subject: Re: [PD] GEM Motion Capture
On 03/11/2015 08:45 PM, Joshua Curley wrote:
>
> I also am using the latest updated from Apple: Yosemite

most likely this is the problem.
Gem still uses QuickTime for accessing the video devices on OSX, and
afaik, yosemite has finally abandoned QT even on i386.

32 bit is pretty much done on OS X anyway.
 
so i think there are a number of possibilities:

- downgrade to some older version of OSX

No that easy, unless you have an older backup.
 
- convince (bribe, intimidate,...) someone with OSX knowledge and
reasonable ObjC/C++ knowledge to write an AVFoundation plugin for Gem

Yes.
 
- upgrade to an operating system that does not deprecate another core
component of their OS whenever they make a new release¹.

Quicktime has been deprecated since 10.7. We had plenty of warning.
 
¹ disclaimer: i love linux and probably are not un-biased.

Yes :D

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