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From: Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca To: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [PD] (breaking symbols) was Re: find a list of numbers in a text file
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
How would you then describe how Pd judges the difference between a symbol
and a float? I wish there was more on this topic in the manual, but there is not.
It's quite hard to do biblical interpretation... and it doesn't necessarily pay off.
In the facts, programmes are written for machines to execute, and only incidentally for people to read. So, issues of backward compatibility happen regardless of what the manual actually says, and it's possible that a programme doesn't reflect the intent, that a manual doesn't reflect the intent, and/or that a manual doesn't reflect the programme. How you resolve such a conflict is... some kind of triple-edged sword... but remember that the intent in question needs not to be the original intent, I'm talking about the current intents.
E.g. if you pass a symbol through [trigger float], which is documented as something that «converts» data, and what it does to any symbol is turn it to 0, you can safely throw away both the documentation and the presumed original intent and move on. Then you may decide a new intent that is useful instead of nonsensical.
But [trigger] _can_ convert message types:
[float 1( | [trigger list] | [symbol] | [select list float] | | | [pd sorry_float_you_blow_up_now_dammit_if_we_had_only_used_trigger_conversion] | [pd list_saves_the_world_thanks_to_trigger_conversion_sunset_credits]
:)
[trigger] has two main functions:
- sequence messages in right to left order.
- have any/all/none of the outlets send a bang instead of the original message as a patching shortcut:
Thus:
[trigger anything] | [b] |
can be shortened to:
[trigger bang] |
2.5) Pd-l2ork and Max/MSP extend this patching shortcut so that:
[trigger bang] | [1(
may be shortened to:
[trigger 1] |
And finally:
-1) [t a] as a cheap hack due to lack of segmented patching cords
-Jonathan
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