thanks for the quick reply Derek. ill try what you suggest instead.

john

Jonesints

On 09/01/2008, Derek Holzer <derek@umatic.nl> wrote:
Hi John,

John Cohen wrote:
> Ive had no problem with pd so far but recently i tried creating the
> "counter" object and I've always had the same error "couldn't create
> counter. I'm pretty certain the object exists in pd since i saw it in a
> couple of tutorials..
> am i missing a special library to get this object?

Well, ermm, several actually. In a way. The problem is that the
namespace for [counter] is a bit polluted, meaning that there are
different versions of [counter] in different libraries which do
different things. I don't recall which libraries have one, so I never
use any of them!

In the help files, help/2.control.examples/05.counter.pd and
06.more.counters.pd are the standard ways of counting. See also the help
file for [mod].

> also, i would very much want to see a list of objects available in pd. i
> haven't seen one so far, so its difficult to know what objects are
> installed and i can count with!
> thanks for your help

There's one for the core PD objects in help/5.reference/0.INTRO.txt
Externals change from time to time, making it difficult to keep
everything current. Here's a(n incomplete) list I made some time back:

http://flossmanuals.net/PureData/ListofObjects

best,
d.

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