awsome, thanks for all your help everyone, i'm really impressed at how
much i can do with pd.

on the flip side, i can reliably crash pd on my win2k machine here by
clicking a few times on the open message box so that i have a few
duplicate x.pd windows open, then hitting the close message box. is this a
known issue? here are my two patches:

test.pd:

#N canvas 453 249 452 302 10;
#X msg 43 82 \; pd-x.pd menuclose;
#X msg 45 35 \; pd open x.pd c:/pd/joschi/;

x.pd:

#N canvas 0 0 454 304 12;
#X obj 115 100 foobar;

-Josh

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Miller Puckette wrote:

> An easier way than self-modifying patches migth be to open a top-level
> patch by message passing. For instance if you have a patch, /tmp/x.pd, here's
> a patch to open and close it:
>
> #N canvas 453 249 450 300 10;
> #X msg 43 82 \; pd-x.pd menuclose;
> #X msg 45 35 \; pd open x.pd /tmp;
>
> cheers
> Miller

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