I think that's a good idea.

But then Pd Vanilla aficionados might complain that to use cyclone they would be forced to also install the pddp library for [pddplink] and [helplink], because those objects do not ship with Pd Vanilla.  Otherwise they would end up with a lot of broken objects in those help patches.

All the little Pd libraries in Debian don't help this problem, because not every GNU/Linux distribution uses apt. (Nor does OSX or Windows, for that matter.)

Also, I believe Hans emailed awhile back asking if I'd do the work of removing the PDDP template boilerplate from the tutorial revisions I did.  He wanted me to leave only the [pd META] subpatch, because that's evidently the only part Miller wanted to add to Vanilla.

Ivica-- have Fred Jan's patches been applied to L2ork?  If not, I'm happy to test/commit them.

-Jonathan


On Friday, December 5, 2014 4:03 PM, Ivica Bukvic <ico@vt.edu> wrote:


Why not simply use cyclone help patches provided in pd-l2ork that already conform to the pddp standard?
On Dec 5, 2014 3:59 PM, "Fred Jan Kraan" <fjkraan@xs4all.nl> wrote:
Hi everyone,

Recently I started on improving the help-patches of the cyclone library.
The idea is to convert then all to the format used by the pd-core
objects in pd-vanilla, which is also the standard with Pd-l2ork and try
to improve them a bit on the way.

It is part of a larger initiative to fix the remaining problems with the
cyclone suite and improve it on newer platforms, including 64-bit
systems and ARM-architectures.

Awaiting permission to submit the changes into the SVN-repository (hint,
hint, ...), I collect the help-patches on this page:
http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/digaud/puredata/cyclone/index.html.
(Already at 30+ of 150+, so ~20% :-) ).

Remarks on these patches or on cyclone objects in general are welcome.

Fred Jan

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