hello,
I would agree with this (good to have other sources)
and will add that the French version has been updated to the latest(ish)
state of the pd ecosystem
Hi, well, first, sorry to be harsh criticism I'll bring here, but I strongly disagree you have an updated version of the manual. I've been checking the changes. The french manual has a different introduction and talks about the latest vanilla and forks, but all of the remains is basically the same. For instance, the installation still considers 'Pd-extended' 0.39' =>
https://fr.flossmanuals.net/puredata/installation-sur-mac-os-x/
When talking about OSC, there's no mentioning of Pd's internals that can handle it. Not to mention that it is quite outdated in general when not mentioning now the quite old feature that is [clone]
You don't explain how to use deken or even mention it. Pd's actual manual is not referred and it includes lots of important and current information on how to handle externals. When talking about libraries, you have information on pd-extended's [import] object and nothing about [declare]. Many of the external libraries you have on the manual simply do not show how you can install them in the first place. And GEM seem to have issues on macOS (I don't really know much about this) and is a bit outdated. There's nothing about new externals, like [ofelia], for instance...
I can't read french, but what I see is that this is a variant of the english floss manual centered in pd-extended, but with a new small introduction that talks about vanilla and a couple of forks and with the pd-extended external list removed (which is something pretty nice it had!). I think this is a good example of parallel efforts that despite the advantages and good it brings (like being a great resource for french speakers) end up generating noise. We now have an official Manual that not many users are aware of. An english and abandoned FLOSS Manual that is actually centered in Pd-Extended and totally outdated, and a french version of the same manual that is not the same manual at all (but people will assume that it is the exact same thing but in french) and it sits somewhere between a pd-extended manual and an outdated Pd manual.
It's ok if we want to go back and write a new FLOSS Manual, but please, let us do that then. Just keep this as the french version of the old FLOSS Manual (centered in Pd-extended) - in fatc I'm trying to rename it as a pd-extended manual.
And if we start with a new english one, we can then think about translating it to other languages. And people who want to translate it to other languages should collaborate with the english one. If they're working on new things on a different language, they can also bring it to the original 'master' one in english to avoid noise.
and will be updated when / where necessary
(I'll try to keep it up) to keep a current (french) ressource available
with a didactic introduction to concepts (and not just a technical
reference)
Well, I think this is still quite far from being updated, so it needed to be updated now in things I've pointed, but again, I can't read french and help more, and we could work instead ogether on a new english official version first, where more people can collaborate (including you) before we have it in other languages.
I don't know what you mean by "a didactic introduction to concepts (and not just a technical reference)". If you mean Pd's manual/documentation is just too technical and not didactic, we can discuss about improving on this matter.
cheers